Just saw someone jump off the top of a 5 story car park.

This I know, but don't you find it strange or or even disgraceful they did not even check vitals?
Is there a rule saying they can't check vitals in these situations, or any other reason why they would not?
(assuming asim is right)

No because I wasn't there, I don't have access to the information that the cops did so I can't criticise them as a result.

An example I give is a case of a man who was very depressed and took an unspecified poison before driving to a secluded spot.

Police searching for him were told not to give CPR under any circumstances should he be found for the obvious reason that any attempt to give mouth to mouth would likely kill the cop performing it, chest compressions could release tainted air in the lungs and any bleeds could contain unspecified poison that could also be a risk.

It can't be discounted that the cops attending the scene at the car park didn't have intel on the jumper that affected their decision.
 
I think you obviously do not know what goes through the minds of people suffering from depression then, and I'm sure many others will back me up.

I think different people have different views on people who suffer depression to the extent of wanting to die.

I personally believe the hard approach may not always be the right one. These people are NOT thinking rationally at the times they are in this frame of mind, a different approach is needed to comfat and reasure them into the correct professional help.
 
I was having a go at him for calling them "muppets", as if he knows what they're (possibly) going through.

I'd like to see if he feels the same way over a family member or friend becoming depressed, and looking for a way out by taking their own life. Will he call them muppets too?

Of course, she may not have been depressed, but he still tarnished them all with the same brush.

I did edit my post when I saw you were referring to the muppet bit, I'm in agreeance with you.
 
I think different people have different views on people who suffer depression to the extent of wanting to die.

I personally believe the hard approach may not always be the right one. These people are NOT thinking rationally at the times they are in this frame of mind, a different approach is needed to comfat and reasure them into the correct professional help.

Exactly, people in such a state of desperation are clearly not in any fit state to make rational decisions.

Some of the comments show how ignorant some people are and their lack of maturity.
 
It can't be discounted that the cops attending the scene at the car park didn't have intel on the jumper that affected their decision.

No it can't. But a member of the public is unlikely to be privy to such details. It's also more the checking vitals than the cpr.

What you suggest just ignore it| or maybe have a word with the station?

If they did not check vitals I would be wanting to know why.

But I'll stop there as this thread is already of topic enough with silly people.
 
Exactly my point, and yet he still feels the need to call them "muppets". :confused:

Thats just his view. Some people look upon it as being selfish, as they are going to cause hurt to the loved ones around them by killing themselfs.

I'll stick to what i believe though, you are not in the right frame of mind during such depression (suicidal)
 
I never said everybody who was depressed and had suicidal tendencies was a muppet, it was just the word I used in my post.

I could have just said "I wouldn't risk my life for some randomer on top of a roof", made no difference really you just got all arsy about it.
 
No it can't. But a member of the public is unlikely to be privy to such details. It's also more the checking vitals than the cpr.

What you suggest just ignore it| or maybe have a word with the station?

If they did not check vitals I would be wanting to know why.

But I'll stop there as this thread is already of topic enough with silly people.

I would let the cops do their job and allow them to make that judgement.
 
:confused:

Why does it matter if I know what they are going through? I think it's idiotic to go the suicide route (with some exceptions) so yes I would be hard on a friend or family member if they were trying to commit suicide.

Ok the thing is it is a pretty idiotic thing to do, and the people who attempt it but survive and recover would probably agree with you. However the people in the suicidal state of mind at the time probably wouldn't agree with you and they are the ones that need help,empathy and understanding. Not someone on a high horse telling them they're idiots.
 
Why? Hardly something to boast about is it?

People make things up on the internet for attention all the time, im not accusing the OP of it, but you would be surprised the kind of things made up that are not true on message boards.
 
I never said everybody who was depressed and had suicidal tendencies was a muppet, it was just the word I used in my post.

I could have just said "I wouldn't risk my life for some randomer on top of a roof", made no difference really you just got all arsy about it.

It was just a bit too quick to start calling people, despite not knowing what they're going through. :/

Whatever though, I'll shut up.
 
I think you obviously do not know what goes through the minds of people suffering from depression then, and I'm sure many others will back me up.

You are absolutely right there. I don't want to get drawn into a discussion on my own issues/feelings but unless you've been there yourself, you couldn't really guess at what goes on in the mind of someone suffering serious depression.

It's better not to judge people either unless you're a sufferer or health professional, when you're that low it really does seem like the only way out (in fact it looks a really attractive option), and although you know it's wrong and will hurt others, that figures pretty low on your list of priorities and you tend to push it right to the back of your thoughts.

Not looking for sympathy or further discussion, just trying to give some perspective.
 
My impeccable photographic memory isn't helping. The scene has been carved into my brain.

How old was she? What sort of people were standing around filming?

She was about 18-25. The filmers were mostly chinese/jap and a few black youths too.
 
Last edited:
Personally, at least if I lived nearby, my first instinct would be to lay down something to land on, and encourage others to do the same. Duvets, pillows, anything soft. I know there's no way I could catch someone from 5 stories. I'm not platinum87. But at least putting something below her will soften the impact, which could save her life.
 
Back
Top Bottom