nah
edit: also you left out the gas chamber pity party paragraph, you're slacking
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edit: also you left out the gas chamber pity party paragraph, you're slacking
Thanks to Russia and the Ukraine war there is a massive up tick in military aviation - both NATO and Russia are flying loads of heavy transports around, etc.
Not to mention other impacts of the war like the massive oil depot fires, etc.
Strangely this always becomes so polarised, same with things like EVs, and hybrid solutions which may provide a better or more practical stopgap often get little attention.
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Soldato
Reconstruction using a million tonnes of steel reinforced concrete dwarfs that. Also rebuilding dams, hardening borders to prevent a recurrence. Ukraine may just become the top user of cement and steel after or slightly before China.
Beats a few cow emissions in the fields.
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lol the war is fine as that doesn't fit their agenda
"its the cows that cause it all!!!! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"
"its the cows that cause it all!!!! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"
Soldato
Yea, not a fan of facts are you. Just for you....
Suffering of gassed pigs laid bare in undercover footage from UK abattoir
Hidden camera at slaughterhouse appears to show ‘utterly inhumane’ use of CO2 to stun pigs before slaughter
www.theguardian.com
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Soldato
Whats your point though? One we have control over the supply of, the other we do not.
Don't mistake people who don't read your drivel, with people who don't care.
Can you advise how much land would be required to grow all the extra vegetables etc if the world switched to vegan.
It won't be a like for like swap from cattle as the weather won't be suitable in a lot of cattle regions.
Look back 10 or so years when palm products were touted as the next best thing.
Forests got flattened to make way for the palm.
Great eco system there.
Soldato
We would use less land and less resources. What uses more crops, 8 Billion humans or 80 Billion land animals? (dont even need farmed fish to prove the point)
Environmental Impacts of Food Production
What are the environmental impacts of food production? How do we reduce the impacts of agriculture on the environment?
ourworldindata.org
Soldato
lol, a BBC article covering a recent study from oxford university is 'drivel' xD
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Try growing your vegetables in texts, for example, where cattle are.We would use less land and less resources. What uses more crops, 8 Billion humans or 80 Billion land animals? (dont even need farmed fish to prove the point)
Environmental Impacts of Food Production
What are the environmental impacts of food production? How do we reduce the impacts of agriculture on the environment?
Completely the wrong environment
Edit.. found a vegetable exporters map.
China wins again it seems, how much carbon footprint is involved in the transport.
The World Vegetable Map
Demand for vegetables is growing worldwide. Not just because of population growth, but also because consumers have an increasing awareness of the food on their tables. The trend is not limited to Western countries.
www.rabobank.com
And if oil is stopped then they will come on a slow boat from China.
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Soldato
Well yea, where crops wont grow, they wont be grown will they....
This isnt a controversial topic, unless you have an aversion to the truth - https://www.worldwildlife.org/magaz...the-biggest-drivers-of-tropical-deforestation
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I have no aversion to the truth, however what you suggest isn't feasible, it would also create more deforestation.
I never said that, I said your drivel.
Soldato
No it wouldn't, do the math?
What uses more crops, 8 Billion humans or 80 Billion land animals?
If everyone were vegan, only a quarter of current farmland would be needed
Most is currently used to grow plants to feed animals
Man of Honour
Plenty of studies have shown that veganism would lead to a massive drop in deforestation.
5 Causes of Deforestation
Deforestation is a major issue: every minute, we lose about 36 football fields worth of trees. Learn what are the main causes of deforestation and what you can do to help support reforestation.
onetreeplanted.org
1. INDUSTRIAL AGRICULTURE
2. TIMBER LOGGING
3. MINING
4. EXPANSION AND INFRASTRUCTURE
5. CLIMATE CHANGE
I'm all for reducing the emissions in the world for the health of all, however i won't be joining the vegan band wagon.
I take it all the protestors on here are vegan, so they are supporting what they are saying?
Soldato
Beef is on there, however it notes palm and soy is close behind in the number 1 category.5 Causes of Deforestation
Deforestation is a major issue: every minute, we lose about 36 football fields worth of trees. Learn what are the main causes of deforestation and what you can do to help support reforestation.
1. INDUSTRIAL AGRICULTURE
2. TIMBER LOGGING
3. MINING
4. EXPANSION AND INFRASTRUCTURE
5. CLIMATE CHANGE
I'm all for reducing the emissions in the world for the health of all, however i won't be joining the vegan band wagon.
I take it all the protestors on here are vegan, so they are supporting what they are saying?
Uh huh, and what do we do with all that soy? https://ourworldindata.org/soy
"More than three-quarters (77%) of global soy is fed to livestock for meat and dairy production."
I think theres only 2 vegans on here iirc. Its an animal rights movement anyway, not environmental. Of course people go plant based/vegan for different reasons.
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Soldato
Just Stop Oil counter group crashes banquet with rape alarms
Just Stop Oil wrote on Twitter: 'We invited them to eat with us, but the alarms they let off at our banquet instead were the perfect metaphor for the urgency of the climate crisis.'