"Just stop oil"

[SexyGreyFox]

Had to take a patient and his guards down to A&E CT a few weeks back. This chap was double cuffed, leg cuffed and had a large leather belt on with chains going to both prison officers. This guy was not a nice person, his crimes were brutally abhorrent, and I spent the entire journey winding him up.

I've had a very famous paedo, a serial rapist and several murderers all claiming and you just have to put your professional head on.
Except for the paedo I normally see their address at HMP then look them up on Google.
It must be awful for clinicians to have to deal with this scum.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Lawyers not prosecuting climate activists seems utterly bizarre for a profession that is tasked with trying to get criminals out of convictions even when they know 100% they are guilty. Its not like they turn around and say "I think you did it so I can't in good conscience try and help to avoid punishment".

I understand what they are saying but its just a really weird thing to stand for in their profession.

Lawyers are mostly liberal lefties they're happy enough to try every which way possible to try and obstruct the govt's plans to limit illegal migrant crossings but refuse to prosecute climate change protestors.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Lawyers are mostly liberal lefties they're happy enough to try every which way possible to try and obstruct the govt's plans to limit illegal migrant crossings but refuse to prosecute climate change protestors.

You clearly don’t know very many people in the legal profession because they are really not. They are more likely to hold conservative or at best take a balanced view.

You can’t look at a small contingent of activist lawyers and seriously suggest all lawyers are all like that…. Not withstanding the obvious issue that the governments immigration policy is likely illegal and historically where they have tried to deport people on a whim to send a political message, they tried to do so without due process because the department is overwhelmed due to a lack of resources.

 

[CapitalOne]

Lawyers are mostly liberal lefties they're happy enough to try every which way possible to try and obstruct the govt's plans to limit illegal migrant crossings but refuse to prosecute climate change protestors.

LOL @ lefty lawyers.

The Anti Growth Coalition.

Tofu eating wokerati.

Anyone that doesn’t agree with you….and yet the precious faux outrage at “language similar to 1930s Germany”

 

[SexyGreyFox]

You clearly don’t know very many people in the legal profession because they are really not. They are more likely to hold conservative or at best take a balanced view.

You can’t look at a small contingent of activist lawyers and seriously suggest all lawyers are all like that…. Not withstanding the obvious issue that the governments immigration policy is likely illegal and historically where they have tried to deport people on a whim to send a political message, they tried to do so without due process because the department is overwhelmed due to a lack of resources.

I was just going to say this but not as eloquent.
My boss is a Lawyer, I also see loads more and they all sit firmly on the fence.

 

[AORUS]

Cobblers. They're at best a band of self-righteous power-hungry deluded people who make things worse unintentionally due to their ignorance and at worst a band of malicious self-righteous power-hungry people who make things worse intentionally. Either way, they are self-righteous power-hungry people who make things worse.

Also, they're not risking their lives unless they're more stupid and careless than they seem to be and they're certainly not risking their lives for any purpose other than their pursuit of power and self-gratification. They're risking other people's lives, of course, but they don't care about that. As long as they get power and the gratification of self-righteousness they don't care how many people die as a result of their actions. If they fail, they'll probably only kill dozens. If they succeed, they'll probably kill many millions, maybe even billions. Which would be a great success for them - it would be mostly beneficial for other animals and for plants.

Also, the earth isn't at any risk anyway. That's just a stand-in for the will of god(s) in their belief system. It's a direct like for like replacement. Both are a claim of massively superhuman authority for whatever they decide to do. Earth will be fine until Sol leaves its main phase and becomes a red giant. Maybe not even then if human civilisation survives and continues to increase its knowledge and technology. Which is what, if anything, will solve climate change without destroying human civilisation and killing billions of people.

You talk about Knowledge and technology will save human race one thing that's behind is community support for green energy people selfish acts tell me then what technology have the UK government done! Spending £679m towards the building of Sizewell C, in Suffolk nuclear project and it only powers 1 million homes what a joke open a new coal mine in Cumbria it will be the first coal mine given the go-ahead in three decades (old news i know) because it cheaper then wind/solar farms what's next coal fires in the homes maybe! We're going backwards to old knowledge in Brexit Britain when any other countries political policies are catching up climate targets but the UK isn't one of them the new Government is taxing wind farms out of existence also we spend more money turning off wind farms and using gas as a backup great thinking Dr Spock lol Now we have Facebook & Twitter groups is spreading Misinformation is derailing renewable energy projects across the United States if it starts there we be next You talk about saving billions of people instead of killing them first things first disarmament of nuclear weapons and nuclear power plants is good start but US/EU/UK won't agree to it, and the human civilisation might be force into a nuclear war that we don't want! So is that the human knowledge can we can look forward to in the future?

If General motors kept to their hydrogen fuel cars back in 1966 the oil barons would have lost the car market today Just like the big E-fuel lie report in 2021. Then oil industry has a lot to lose in the climate debate so the oil companies was then trying to get the public on their side – especially motorists by launched a new campaign called "e-fuels for future" do you remember! But now the automotive industry itself is now also predominantly relying on electric cars. E-fuels, fuel cells, etc. were supported by the state in projects for years with large sums of money and did not prevail in the end. The fact that the oil industry is now calling for "openness to technology" in its campaign is therefore not honest. As it stands, e-fuels in passenger cars have simply lost the technology competition.

If it wasn't for all the world activist groups like Friends of the Earth all big companies would get way it and some do today I hope ULEZ in London goes a head as planed I'm EV owner so it don't be a problem for me and my family. We have just too many old cars/vans/buses/ on the UK what the government should be doing is any car below year 2000 should be taken off the road/ pay extra pollution tax to the year of car, travelling a national UK yearly average of 1,200 miles – generates 563kg of CO2 per year. In comparison, a typical modern car emits up to 6.8 tonnes of CO2 before it even departs the factory.

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[Chris Wilson]

The situation in the UK is so simple, but everyone in government with an eye to promotion ignores it. There are too many of us, and more are wanting to, and being enabled., to come here. Smell the coffee...Don't overthink and overcomplicate this situation

Then, once you grasp that fact, look at the global situation, which is similar. It's a toss up between global conflict and mother nature rebalancing this iniquitous situation. Either way, `tis but a matter of time...

 

[platinum87]

You talk about Knowledge and technology will save human race one thing that's behind is community support for green energy people selfish acts tell me then what technology have the UK government done! Spending £679m towards the building of Sizewell C, in Suffolk nuclear project and it only powers 1 million homes what a jokeopen a new coal mine in Cumbria it will be the first coal mine given the go-ahead in three decades (old news i know) because it cheaper then wind/solar farms what's next coal fires in the homes maybe! We're going backwards to old knowledge in Brexit Britain when any other countries political policies are catching up climate targets but the UK isn't one of them the new Government is taxing wind farms out of existence also we spend more money turning off wind farms and using gas as a backup great thinking Dr Spock lol Now we have Facebook & Twitter groups is spreading Misinformation is derailing renewable energy projects across the United States if it starts there we be next You talk about saving billions of people instead of killing them first things first disarmament of nuclear weapons and nuclear power plants is good start but US/EU/UK won't agree to it, and the human civilisation might be force into a nuclear war that we don't want! So is that the human knowledge can we can look forward to in the future?

If General motors kept to their hydrogen fuel cars back in 1966 the oil barons would have lost the car market today Just like the big E-fuel lie report in 2021. Then oil industry has a lot to lose in the climate debate so the oil companies was then trying to get the public on their side – especially motorists by launched a new campaign called "e-fuels for future" do you remember! But now the automotive industry itself is now also predominantly relying on electric cars. E-fuels, fuel cells, etc. were supported by the state in projects for years with large sums of money and did not prevail in the end. The fact that the oil industry is now calling for "openness to technology" in its campaign is therefore not honest. As it stands, e-fuels in passenger cars have simply lost the technology competition.

If it wasn't for all the world activist groups like Friends of the Earth all big companies would get way it and some do today I hope ULEZ in London goes a head as planed I'm EV owner so it don't be a problem for me and my family. We have just too many old cars/vans/buses/ on the UK what the government should be doing is any car below year 2000 should be taken off the road/ pay extra pollution tax to the year of car, travelling a national UK yearly average of 1,200 miles – generates 563kg of CO2 per year. In comparison, a typical modern car emits up to 6.8 tonnes of CO2 before it even departs the factory.

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An EV is not greener, you are just swapping burning petrol in the car, to burning gas/coal and then sending that energy via cables to the car.

Now you could be wealthy enough to have a solar setup with batteries, so you've swapped CO2 emissions for digging up colbalt in places like the congo, also i dont know what CO2 emissions are there for processing those raw materials compared to just refining oil.

Main point here is like @Angilion says, self righteousness, which you are exhibiting.

 

[Diddums]

The situation in the UK is so simple, but everyone in government with an eye to promotion ignores it. There are too many of us, and more are wanting to, and being enabled., to come here. Smell the coffee...Don't overthink and overcomplicate this situation

Then, once you grasp that fact, look at the global situation, which is similar. It's a toss up between global conflict and mother nature rebalancing this iniquitous situation. Either way, `tis but a matter of time...

You should really do an omnibus of all your anti-immigration drivel to save you blabbering on in every thread you can somehow tenuously link it to

 

[Chris Wilson]

You should really do an omnibus of all your anti-immigration drivel to save you blabbering on in every thread you can somehow tenuously link it to

Is it the Chinese virus or recalcitrance that does not allow you to smell the coffee?

 

[Kenai]

Is it the Chinese virus or recalcitrance that does not allow you to smell the coffee?

It's probably the copious amounts of horse **** being posted that's stinking the place out

 

[b0rn2sk8]

, so you've swapped CO2 emissions for digging up colbalt in places like the congo,

Cobalt is also used for refining oil, specifically to remove sulphur

also i dont know what CO2 emissions are there for processing those raw materials compared to just refining oil.

Right now, more up front but less over the lifespan of the vehicle, that ignores the benefits to the local environment (e.g. you don't have to breathe in all those tail pipe emissions walking down the street.

 

[Chris Wilson]

It's probably the copious amounts of horse **** being posted that's stinking the place out

So please explain to this equine excretion poster how local and global human population levels and greenhouse gas production are not equatable.

 

[Diddums]

So please explain to this equine excretion poster how local and global human population levels and greenhouse gas production are not equatable.

They are, we all know this. You seem to think that by not letting anyone in to the country that suddenly all our greenhouse problems will go away.

To be clear, 70% of my workforce is currently foreign, and they're all good, honest, hard working people, including myself.

But don't let that get in the way of your incessant frothing in every thread over a few lazy apples trying to take the mick.

I currently have two vacancies too, might see what our borders have to offer

 

[Chris Wilson]

Too many people is too many people, whatever their ethnicity or origin. Our services allgedly can't cope, nor can our housing stock, and green belt land that "cleans" our atmosphere is being eroded all the time.

 

[Diddums]

Too many people is too many people, whatever their ethnicity or origin. Our services allgedly can't cope, nor can our housing stock, and green belt land that "cleans" our atmosphere is being eroded all the time.

Correct, and yet this is a global problem, we're not exclusive. Yet we are still one of the best economies in the world with some of the best educational institutions in existence, all of which could help produce solutions to our problems, using bright minds from all over the world.

But we all know you'd rather shut the borders down, burn junk in your back yard and pretend that humanity hasn't evolved since the 70s.

Shock horror old boy, the world is changing and the only way to stave off the negative effects is to find solutions, so you close your curtains, moan about the immigrants on the internet and let the rest of us make sure your kids have a future eh

 

[Lightnix]

The thing is you might not like Just Stop Oil right now but sooner or later they're going to get their way because eventually oil is going to stop itself. It's a finite resource after all.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

The thing is you might not like Just Stop Oil right now but sooner or later they're going to get their way because eventually oil is going to stop itself. It's a finite resource after all.

It will take a while though -

The world has proven reserves equivalent to 46.6 times its annual consumption levels. This means it has about 47 years of oil left (at current consumption levels and excluding unproven reserves).

 

[platinum87]

Cobalt is also used for refining oil, specifically to remove sulphur



Right now, more up front but less over the lifespan of the vehicle, that ignores the benefits to the local environment (e.g. you don't have to breathe in all those tail pipe emissions walking down the street.

The amount of colbalt used in that process is extremely small. The amount of colbalt in one electric car, will refine enough fuel to drive to Mars or Jupiter give or take depending on what electric car it is.

The thing is you might not like Just Stop Oil right now but sooner or later they're going to get their way because eventually oil is going to stop itself. It's a finite resource after all.

What it means for "just stop oil" lot to get their way, is a large amount of the UK will not be able to afford enough food, let alone energy. This is fundamentalist ideology which puts then in the same level as jimmy saville. The big issue here is the surface layer seems to be common sense and nobody bothers think just a bit longer. which is summed up by your post exactly.

The actual people doing anything are those who research any of a thousand fields, or start companies in those fields to produce products, or work at those companies, or invest in those companies.

 

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It will take a while though -

The world has proven reserves equivalent to 46.6 times its annual consumption levels. This means it has about 47 years of oil left (at current consumption levels and excluding unproven reserves).

Do you have all the data and reservoir surveys to show this?