*** Justice League Thread ***

Yea loads of places on internet many people say its i big problem.
Oh..well if people of the internet have a problem with it..well..that changes everything.
I guess we can only watch HDR colour balanced Marvel films all using the same colour gradients and never dare using a shadow or god forbid, contrast.
 
4:3 = fail
Yeah what's the deal with that?

Most of Snyders original footage was filmed in IMAX, and the frame is actually bigger meaning you do actually fit more of the landscape in the scene.
Except 99% of people at home have 16:9 TVs so we're all sitting there with wasted picture space left and right. 4:3 for home viewing is dumb. It's a shame as it was shot for IMAX but it's highly annoying having to look at a smaller picture when you know they would have framed it acceptably in camera for 16:9.
 
Regardless of the actual ratio what's the reason for it not being 16:9 or 21:9?
Snyder choose to film it that way.

Technically 16:9 blocks out the top and bottom reducing the picture size. This was done when using 35mm film. This uses the full frame available and its how the director wanted it to look. It feels bigger.
 
Yeah what's the deal with that?

Except 99% of people at home have 16:9 TVs so we're all sitting there with wasted picture space left and right. 4:3 for home viewing is dumb.

Its not wasted space though is it the picture is meant to be like that. You could say the same thing about 2:33:1 ratio top and bottom bars.

It's a shame as it was shot for IMAX but it's highly annoying having to look at a smaller picture when you know they would have framed it acceptably in camera for 16:9.

It wouldnt have been framed acceptably because you would be missing nearly half the detail in the frame. With the current 4:3 you are actually getting a lot more picture in each frame.

Regardless of the actual ratio what's the reason for it not being 16:9 or 21:9?

As steve5424 said above it was filmed for iMax 1:43:1 ratio which is as tall as it is wide.

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Really enjoyed that a lot, 4hrs passed very quickly and I didn't even notice the time fly by. As to the film, well the dumb bits are still dumb, but overall it's just such a better crafted film and story than the original release and the introduction of revived Superman to Steppenwolf was fantastic, a proper hero moment that was way better than Whedon's version!
 
Yeah I enjoyed the film but most of the first 2 hours should be elsewhere, prequel films etc. The centre section which is essentially the reworked film and is a fair bit tighter, prettier and better paced and the tone works better. Still full of dumb exposition where they tell you stuff they have no way of knowing. The script overall is still naff 75+% of MCU films have better scripts than this but it's an improvement. The epilogue was nice but felt unconnected to the film. This is a mini series of which part of it is also a film.

Superman remains a problem he makes all the other characters redundant. When he goes rogue it doesn't feel right. In the MCU when Hulk goes rogue it feels more appropriate. Although Thor got pretty overpowered in the MCU towards the end there was still a meaningful place for the other characters. This is not a criticism of this film because it is substantially better than the previous version but the DC team thing doesn't work as well as the MCU team thing.

I agree with the comments about Cyborg, a more central and developed character. No doubt Fisher got his nose out of join that he lost out in the slim down needed for the original release. He should have had his own movie before Justice League because his backstory is what substantially bloats this movie out.

I'm glad it was made and released I'd love to see a Batfleck movie and the continuation of some of the epilogue stuff to conclusion. Warner Brothers just screwed the pooch on the DCEU this helps right the ship a bit and draws a line under what went before and should be a good jumping off point.
 
That was to play into the Flashes film in Paradox, where Bruce dies in the alley and his Dad becomes batmen, though a more crazed very murderous version. Think the mom was pretty well known too, as in another multiverse shes the one that goes mad and becomes a version of the Joker. Its why Zack filmed the dead alley scene again, but got slated for it as we have seen it so many times, but he was setting up the faces to be all part of it, it makes no sense now as WB has thrown that all away.
I decided to go back one and watch Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition (again) which I`m rather enjoying this time round too and then watch JL Snyder Cut next. One thing I didnt realise was

NEGAN IS BATMAN's DAD !!!

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as you notice negan playing batman dad, you should have notice that the actress that plays Maggie in the walking dead is also playing batman mum in BvS: DoJ
 
Its not wasted space though is it the picture is meant to be like that. You could say the same thing about 2:33:1 ratio top and bottom bars.
Fair enough I'll admit it's not really the wasted space, it's more the fact it makes the pic seem so small. I'd prefer a 16x9 crop.

It wouldnt have been framed acceptably because you would be missing nearly half the detail in the frame. With the current 4:3 you are actually getting a lot more picture in each frame
They will be simultaneously framing for 4x3 and 16x9 (or something similar), I guarantee it. They'll do a pan and scan for dvd or something. And how do you think it was going to play in regular theatres?

It depends how you want to look at it. I would say my TV has XX amount of real estate and they're not using half of it. Considering this is a home release they should be bearing this in mind.

I also hate IMAX so my perspective is somewhat skewed...
 
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4:3 = fail

Turned it off after about 5 mins, just couldn't deal with 4:3, seems like I saved myself nearly 4 hours of misery ;)

Its not wasted space though is it the picture is meant to be like that. You could say the same thing about 2:33:1 ratio top and bottom bars.

That because 2:33:1 (do you mean 2.39:1?) is the aspect ratio for Cinema, some would say the natural home of motion pictures, watching it at home where predominately it's 16:9 then you get black bars.

As other have already said it seems that Synder was really more worried abou IMAX than home viewing, not sure how the really lines up with the reality of all cinemas being shut, Directors huh!

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/zack-snyder-justice-league-4-3-aspect-ratio/

“My intent was to have the movie, the entire film, play in a gigantic 4:3 aspect ratio on a giant IMAX screen. Superheroes tend to be, as figures, they tend to be less horizontal. Maybe Superman when he’s flying, but when he’s standing, he’s more of a vertical. Everything is composed and shot that way, and a lot of the restoration is sort of trying to put that back. Put these big squares back… it’s a completely different aesthetic. It’s just got a different quality and one that is unusual. No one’s doing that.”

Yeah there's a reason why nobody's doing that Zack, especially in a global pandemic ;) To be fair I guess this was in production long before the pandemic hit, some will admire his commitment to watching a film at the Cinema (IMAX) in order to get the best viewing experience.
 
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Watched it last night, huge improvement on the first pathetic attempt, made so much more sense and I was actually hooked throughout which was surprising considering the run time. Visually it was great in places and seemed to have that bit more polish about it.

Although it could have been a three hour film if they played all the slow mo bits at real speed :D:D
 
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Turned it off after about 5 mins, just couldn't deal with 4:3, seems like I saved myself nearly 4 hours of misery ;)



That because 2:33:1 (do you mean 2.39:1?) is the aspect ratio for Cinema, some would say the natural home of motion pictures, watching it at home where predominately it's 16:9 then you get black bars.

As other have already said it seems that Synder was really more worried abou IMAX than home viewing, not sure how the really lines up with the reality of all cinemas being shut, Directors huh!

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/zack-snyder-justice-league-4-3-aspect-ratio/



Yeah there's a reason why nobody's doing that Zack, especially in a global pandemic ;) To be fair I guess this was in production long before the pandemic hit, some will admire his commitment to watching a film at the Cinema (IMAX) in order to get the best viewing experience.
It's also known as the 'academy standard' and up till the 50s was the ratio used in all movies.

This was filmed back in 2015/2016. This version was put together and edited etc during last year.

You should give it a chance. Its a good movie.
 
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