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B@Th*nG said:
you're not asking the question as to why they haven't though are you? Look at all the threatened masculinity ITT.. the backlash, unless you have some momentum/support, is just horrendous.

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i don't have to ask. someone who spoke up about this stuff at the time despite those issues would be far more worthy of a "POTY" than people who waited until years later and it was "more acceptable" to speak up, resulting in lots more people suffering in the mean time.
 
wolfie138 said:
i don't have to ask. someone who spoke up about this stuff at the time despite those issues would be far more worthy of a "POTY" than people who waited until years later and it was "more acceptable" to speak up, resulting in lots more people suffering in the mean time.
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That's a strange and simplistic view on all of this, to be honest, can you not think back to a time in your life where you've known something was wrong but didn't speak up right there and then as it may have had a negative impact on your image, career or wellbeing? Now magnify that somewhat and realise that not everyone can simply just speak out and it'll go swimmingly, times were different back in some of these reported cases and power and wealth were and still are a very real means of keeping people down.
 
wolfie138 said:
i don't have to ask. someone who spoke up about this stuff at the time despite those issues would be far more worthy of a "POTY" than people who waited until years later and it was "more acceptable" to speak up, resulting in lots more people suffering in the mean time.
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you have no idea what you're talking about

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B@Th*nG said:
you have no idea what you're talking about

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Ayahuasca said:
That's a strange and simplistic view on all of this, to be honest, can you not think back to a time in your life where you've known something was wrong but didn't speak up right there and then as it may have had a negative impact on your image, career or wellbeing? Now magnify that somewhat and realise that not everyone can simply just speak out and it'll go swimmingly, times were different back in some of these reported cases and power and wealth were and still are a very real means of keeping people down.
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we're not talking about something that would have affected just me though, are we? we're talking about something that affected me being perpetrated against possibly countless others because i said nothing.
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chroniclard said:
Looks quite well dressed to me. Certainly nothing to raise eyebrows over.

My wife often wears dresses, fishnets and boots to work, shes a lawyer. I dont mind. :)
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You might want to draw her attention to this advice should she be thinking of advancing her career to take silk:

Cover your briefs, girls! Trainee barristers could lose marks in exams if their skirts are too short
  • Offences include 'too much shirt undone' while men must avoid 'colourful socks'
  • Any of these mistakes are likely to cause 'point penalties' for legal students
  • Inappropriate tights are also banned as leg wear should be 'plain' or with a 'subtle pattern', the guidance says
Female trainee barristers have been told they will be penalised in their exams if their skirts are too short.

Advice provided to students taking the professional training course at BPP University warns that showing too much leg amounts to an 'offence of professional conduct'.

Other offences for women include 'too much shirt undone' – exposing inappropriate amounts of cleavage – while men must avoid wearing 'colourful socks'.



The professional training guide for the course at BPP University warns showing too much leg amounts to an 'offence of professional conduct' (stock image)

Any of these mistakes are likely to cause 'point penalties' for students during their advocacy assessment, a mock court situation which tests their knowledge of legal process and courtroom behaviour.

The guidance says colourful socks will cost a male advocate a point, while wearing a skirt above the knee would cost a female trainee two points.

The most costly infringement is for a female trainee whose bra is showing, which would result in the loss of three points. 'Shirts should be predominantly done UP,' says the guidance. 'Cleavage should not be on show.'

Meanwhile, wearing 'kinky boots' which have stiletto heels, straps or buckles would cost a woman trainee two points. And wearing such boots with a short skirt would result in three points being deducted as this outfit choice is 'an inappropriate combination for court'.

Inappropriate tights are also banned as leg wear should be 'plain' or with a 'subtle pattern', the guidance says.

Other offences include a mobile phone going off, which would cost three points, and having hands in pockets while addressing the judge, which can also result in three points being deducted.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-marks-exams-skirts-short.html#ixzz5Cv76743c
 
VincentHanna said:
Doesn't really affect his wife does it? Since she is a lawyer not a trainee barrister.
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lawyer
ˈlɔːjə,ˈlɔɪə/
noun
noun: lawyer; plural noun: lawyers
1.
a person who practises or studies law, especially (in the UK) a solicitor or a barrister or (in the US) an attorney.
synonyms: legal practitioner, attorney, legal officer, legal adviser, legal representative, legal executive, agent, member of the bar;
informalbrief

Layer is historically an American term, and covers both solicitor and barrister. Assuming she is a solicitor she may be thinking of training to become a barrister ("take silk"). In which case these notes on dress code would be salient.
 
MikeTheNative said:
I assume Men are as equally penalised for not dressing 'appropriately' as well but it seems that Daily Mail just wanted to stir up **** instead. The only mention of men is that they lose points for colourful socks.
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It's not the Mail, it's a University that has taken these punitive steps....


"The professional training guide for the course at BPP University warns showing too much leg amounts to an 'offence of professional conduct'

Any of these mistakes are likely to cause 'point penalties' for students during their advocacy assessment, a mock court situation which tests their knowledge of legal process and courtroom behaviour."
 
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