Kimi Raikkonen to Renault

I very much doubt Sutil will go to Lotus/Renault, I don't believe the boss of Genii would let Sutil join after that 'incident' between them in China.
 
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This is great news - I'm glad he's back. The Lotus-Renault should be at least competitive with the Merc, so even if we have Vettel, Button, Alonso and Hamilton on the podiums, we could have some great fights between Schumacher and Kimi again!

I just hope the cars are close enough so it's the driver that makes the difference between whether it's a RedBull, McLarens, Ferrari, Merc of even Lotus-Renault on the top step of the podium.

not going to happen , renault didnt even bother to develop the car for most of the season look how far they fell behind.

mercedes already moved up a gear for next year with massive staff hirings and recruiting a few key players, i'd imagine there budget is also going to be a lot bigger
 
Lol, arknor.

Actually, no, I can't say that can I, I get banned for laughing at arknor.

Ever thought that maybe the reason why they fell behind after stopping developing the car this year is because they have focused all their efforts on next years car?

Oh, and as for 'recruiting big players', I think hiring Kimi is a fairly key big player.

But as always... time will tell. We shall see how things shake out in 2012 and go from there. Much better than making wild claims based on nothing but blind bias.
 
Ever thought that maybe the reason why they fell behind after stopping developing the car this year is because they have focused all their efforts on next years car?

Why would they do something sensible like that?

They've clearly just spent a year developing neither car, smoking a few joints around the factory and generally having a good time I expect. :cool:
 
Maybe Renault will benefit next year from having a driver like Kimi who can provide valuable feedback for development, as oppose to a rookie.

Before anyone claims Kimi can't provide any development input read Martin Whitmarsh's comments:

"The fact is, he is very sensitive to what makes a car quicker and is very intelligent, he just doesn't always give it all away," said the Briton, referring to Raikkonen, who raced for the Mercedes powered team between 2002 and 2006.

"Based on my experience of when he was here he was a very committed development driver. When he spoke those few words they were always very valuable," Whitmarsh added.
 
Oh, and as for 'recruiting big players', I think hiring Kimi is a fairly key big player.
and he can only do what the car is capable of its not like hes going to the factory right now to mould a scale model out of clay...

isnt kimi one of the drivers who gets motion sickness in simulators aswell?

wasnt renaults 2011 budget rumoured to be only around 100mil? says a lot when you get 2 pay drivers in as soon as you buy out the team aswell
 
Ever thought that maybe the reason why they fell behind after stopping developing the car this year is because they have focused all their efforts on next years car?

Didn't Renault admit quite early on that their innovative front blowing exhaust system was fundamentally flawed, and being such a major part of the car seriously limited the 2011 cars development potential. I have faith in Renault producing a decent car, however, it's going to have to be pretty special to get regularly finish in the top third of the grid.
 
One more conspiracy theory for you (just read This on the BBC website)

Ferrari didn't pay off Kimi to get rid of him. Santander did, as the wanted their 'golden boy' Fernando into the team with a team mate he was far more likely to dominate.

:D
 
One more conspiracy theory for you (just read This on the BBC website)

Ferrari didn't pay off Kimi to get rid of him. Santander did, as the wanted their 'golden boy' Fernando into the team with a team mate he was far more likely to dominate.

:D

It is actually not that far away from the truth.
 
Maybe Renault will benefit next year from having a driver like Kimi who can provide valuable feedback for development, as oppose to a rookie.

Before anyone claims Kimi can't provide any development input read Martin Whitmarsh's comments:

And will he really help the team progress? On that subject, there's a joke doing the rounds. It's set in the Lotus engineering office at a race some time in 2012. It goes like this: "How was the car, Kimi?" "Good." "How was the car, Vitaly [Petrov]?" "Good." "OK. Debrief over."


:p

Well his developement input didn't do Mclaren or Ferrari a lot of good. Any coincidence that Mclaren haven't had the best car since DC/Pedro was testing and driving regularly for them?

Who knows I've always stated that driver feedback is a lot more limited than people seem to think.
 
One more conspiracy theory for you (just read This on the BBC website)

Ferrari didn't pay off Kimi to get rid of him. Santander did, as the wanted their 'golden boy' Fernando into the team with a team mate he was far more likely to dominate.

:D

yeah could be but then you realise Santander are also in Brazil and South America, massive market for them, hello Felipe....
 
Pass the choc-ices.

I think it was a magnum

kimimagnum.jpg
 
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