Knife Attack in Germany

Raymond Lin said:
What about that Norwegian dude who shot people and then detonated a bomb in 2011?

I find what people tend to have a selective bias to remember what they want to remember. A week after the Southport incident there was a white dude with a knife in London…..I don’t think there was a thread here. The guy that stopped him….he had an Arab name!

Then there was Timothy McViegh before all this, who was one of the biggest terrorist.

Neither were part of any organised groups, so it is not like I used the IRA as an example, which people will no doubt argue “that is different”….different enough to use bombs on random innocence?

People remember what they want to remember.
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So you've got to go back 15 years to find a terror incident by a right winger.

The white guy in London was an eastern European immigrant who, from memory, shouldn't have even been in the country.

Timothy mcveigh was a homegrown loon whose target was a US government building. Again you're going back decades for him.

The IRA (generally) targeted the UK state. Not civilians. also...decades ago.

We have a very real threat in this country (as do some of our European neighbours) that we've been letting in pretty much anyone and everyone with very few controls. We should have followed the Japanese or Polish examples. Tight controls, little immigration from certain countries aaaaaand ah yes, no terror attacks.
 
And again most if not all terrorists are right wing. They are authoritarian, they follow a flag and they have a dear leader and a cause for which they'll die.
 
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Dis86 said:
Again, Jo cox wasn't a random civilian. She was a state representative.
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She was an opposition MP, murdered in pursuit of a political goal. Pretty clearly a terror attack.

I can quote the numbers attacks in the UK by demographic again, if you'd like? It really doesn't help yours and others arguments about where the threat lies though.
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I didn't make any argument, I just pointed out your error.
 
Hagar said:
And again most if not all terrorists are right wing. They are authoritarian, they follow a flag and they have a dear leader and a cause for which they'll die.
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But they're not 'far right' which the government's and media are saying is the biggest threat.
Only one demographic has been afforded extra protections in this country, and ironically they're the ones carrying out the most terrorist attacks.
 
Dis86 said:
So you've got to go back 15 years to find a terror incident by a right winger.

The white guy in London was an eastern European immigrant who, from memory, shouldn't have even been in the country.

Timothy mcveigh was a homegrown loon whose target was a US government building. Again you're going back decades for him.

The IRA (generally) targeted the UK state. Not civilians. also...decades ago.

We have a very real threat in this country (as do some of our European neighbours) that we've been letting in pretty much anyone and everyone with very few controls. We should have followed the Japanese or Polish examples. Tight controls, little immigration from certain countries aaaaaand ah yes, no terror attacks.
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You are cherry picking what you want to cherry pick.

2011 isn’t 15 years ago, it was 13. If you want to play the pedantic game of being specific, be specific. My point of the white dude in London recently…how come no thread made about him…I bet it would’ve have been had he had a darker skin tone. You know that would be true.

My angle is that terrorism happens everywhere. Japan has their own…random idiot, remember Shinsho Abi?

Or what about this one? 2019 recent enough for you?

www3.nhk.or.jp

Bus stop stabbing shocks Japan | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

An 11-year-old girl and a 39-year-old man are dead after a man wielding a knife in each hand stabbed 19 people around a bus stop in Kawasaki city near Tokyo on Tuesday. The attack was carried out in less than 20 seconds. The killer then stabbed himself and died soon after.
www3.nhk.or.jp www3.nhk.or.jp

Your angle seems to be, outsiders bad; us good.

History tells us that just isn’t true, has never been that way.
 
Mr Jack said:
She was an opposition MP, murdered in pursuit of a political goal. Pretty clearly a terror attack.



I didn't make any argument, I just pointed out your error.
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Did I say it wasn't a terror attack?

I could have clarified using the word civilians but I thought that could be gathered by my post pointing out the other attacks were generally against state targets, not civilians.
 
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Dis86 said:
But they're not 'far right' which the government's and media are saying is the biggest threat.
Only one demographic has been afforded extra protections in this country, and ironically they're the ones carrying out the most terrorist attacks.
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There not labelled far right because our government and media has a knee jerk reaction to the England flag however radical Muslims are as far right as our most far right groups in the denial of individual freedoms and the use of violence.
 
Werewolf said:
Is that an official translation or a machine translation...

A lot of translation doesn't necessarily work without a human who not only knows the basics of the language, but the slang, secondary and specialist uses of the language.
Given the page appears to be in German I'm guessing it might be a failure of whatever machine translation is in use.
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Indeed, Firefox translated it as "Mediterranean-looking" for me.
 
Raymond Lin said:
You are cherry picking what you want to cherry pick.

2011 isn’t 15 years ago, it was 13. If you want to play the pedantic game of being specific, be specific. My point of the white dude in London recently…how come no thread made about him…I bet it would’ve have been had he had a darker skin tone. You know that would be true.

My angle is that terrorism happens everywhere. Japan has their own…random idiot, remember Shinsho Abi?

Or what about this one? 2019 recent enough for you?

www3.nhk.or.jp

Bus stop stabbing shocks Japan | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

An 11-year-old girl and a 39-year-old man are dead after a man wielding a knife in each hand stabbed 19 people around a bus stop in Kawasaki city near Tokyo on Tuesday. The attack was carried out in less than 20 seconds. The killer then stabbed himself and died soon after.
www3.nhk.or.jp www3.nhk.or.jp

Your angle seems to be, outsiders bad; us good.

History tells us that just isn’t true, has never been that way.
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You have one random stabbing in Japan? That's your counter? Your own article says the nation was shocked. Why? Because it's such a rare occurrence.
Terrorist attacks throughout the western word are MASSIVELY carried out by one demographic.
 
Hagar said:
There not labelled far right because our government and media has a knee jerk reaction to the England flag however radical Muslims are as far right as our most far right groups in the denial of individual freedoms and the use of violence.
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You can drop the word radical when huge proportions of them hold very oppressive beliefs.
 
Dis86 said:
You have one random stabbing in Japan? That's your counter? Your own article says the nation was shocked. Why? Because it's such a rare occurrence.
Terrorist attacks throughout the western word are MASSIVELY carried out by one demographic.
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No, you picked Japan as an example of their tight immigration and I found a recent one for you to illustrate with tight immigration they still have stabbing, random stabbing…as you want to be pedantic.

Now you use the term “in shock” as a counter argument? Is there not once that the country is “in shock”? I’m sure they use that word too in the US when it comes to school shootings….we all know they happen often enough.
 
Caracus2k said:
In seee that the German police are as keen on using weird descriptors as their UK and US counterparts...



'Southern-looking'???

www.bild.de

Solingen: Drei Tote bei Messer-Angriff – Polizei spricht von Anschlag

Gegen 21.45 Uhr hat ein Mann auf dem Stadtfest in Solingen mit einem Messer wahllos auf Passanten eingestochen. Für die Polizei ein Terror-Anschlag.
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That's the literal translation, but contextually it means someone of a middle-eastern or Mediterranean appearance - ie not a stereotypically "Northern European" look.

Slovak has a similar word that translated literally is something like "suntanned" :D
 
Raymond Lin said:
No, you picked Japan as an example of their tight immigration and I found a recent one for you to illustrate with tight immigration they still have stabbing, random stabbing…as you want to be pedantic.

Now you use the term “in shock” as a counter argument? Is there not once that the country is “in shock”? I’m sure they use that word too in the US when it comes to school shootings….we all know they happen often enough.
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Let's compare lists, shall we?

Category:Terrorist incidents in Japan by year - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

List of terrorist incidents in Great Britain - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

What do you notice? Japan has far fewer instances, the vast majority that I can also see in Japan are natives. The direct opposite of the UK. They are certainly rare in Japan.
And if you're trying to pull the general stabbings angle...yeah that's not a good thread to pull as we know where those fingers point in the UK. Who's massively proptionately responsible for those in this country? I'll give you a clue. It ain't the far right!
 
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