Remember that there are parts of the M25 where L1 is essentially an extended slip road leading from one junction to the next.
Unless I am actually wanting to use the next exit in these stretches, I wont use L1 either.
Lane hogging.
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Remember that there are parts of the M25 where L1 is essentially an extended slip road leading from one junction to the next.
Unless I am actually wanting to use the next exit in these stretches, I wont use L1 either.
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If you deliberately move into the left lane to overtake (undertake) someone, then yes that's illegal.
If however you're chopping along in the first lane at 70mph and some middle aged guy is stuck in the middle lane at 60mph, you can continue in the first lane past them. Passing on the left it's sometimes called.
If however you're chopping along in the first lane at 70mph and some middle aged guy is stuck in the middle lane at 60mph, you can continue in the first lane past them. Passing on the left it's sometimes called.
It's only dangerous if you assume people have no ability to use their left wing mirror before changing lane.
I'm sure that gets measured in a driving test
I hate lane hogging. Absolutely rife on my commute, and like most poor driving standards, I'm sure it's mainly down to laziness. I have genuinely considered contacting my local MP or starting one of those online petitions to ask that the issue of enforcement is debated at government level, but I just can't see it doing much good...the behaviour seems ingrained on a huge majority of drivers I see.
If you sent a few motorway patrols out along the A2 during the morning and evening rush hours with the task of enforcing and fining lane hoggers, you'd have the national debt cleared within a week
If you sent a few motorway patrols out along the A2 during the morning and evening rush hours with the task of enforcing and fining lane hoggers, you'd have the national debt cleared within a week
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I favour this over undertaking. I don't trust people not to suddenly change back to lane 1 while passing them. Plus the old 4 lane switch breaks up the monotony a bit
I favour this over undertaking. I don't trust people not to suddenly change back to lane 1 while passing them. Plus the old 4 lane switch breaks up the monotony a bit
When i normally pass on the left, i slowly catch up on the inside so i'm about 1-2 car lengths behind them. I'd say about a 1/3rd of the time the middle lane hogger realises and moves over. After a short space of time i then put my foot down to get past them.
I guess the most part of it is just being cautious, doing a flat out 80 down the inside lane because you can is more than likely going to cause an accident when someone from the middle lane didn't expect a car to be there when they've suddenly decided to move over.
I've done this before when you have MLM on a quiet stretch of motorway. However, 9/10 times they don't even notice. And that's the problem - so many people are seemingly in their own little world when driving that they have no idea what's going on.
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People, (normally middle aged men in big German cars) who think you're scum for 'only' doing 70mph in the outside lane, they come steaming up your bottom flashing telling you to move over even though you yourself are overtaking, only for them to zoom off at 80odd when you do move back over. They have chosen to speed they should understand that they are in the wrong and keep their whinging to themselves.
Its like some people view the outside lane as this executive lane only to be used by expensive cars driven at 80mph plus.
Its like some people view the outside lane as this executive lane only to be used by expensive cars driven at 80mph plus.
You should get out of the executive lane if you're doing less than 85. Thems the rules.
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Unfortunately you often find that the person doing 70mph in lane 3 is overtaking a long line of people doing 68mph in lanes 1 and 2. This then creates a queue behind this person with everyone else wanting to get passed and getting frustrated at the lead car crawling passed cars going marginally slower.
It's nothing to do with German executive cars wanting to do 120mph everywhere - people just don't like being needlessly held up by someone being inconsiderate.
It's nothing to do with German executive cars wanting to do 120mph everywhere - people just don't like being needlessly held up by someone being inconsiderate.
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So it's inconsiderate not to break the law? If the limit's 70mph, you can't complain if someone isn't doing above that speed.
*Sigh* I knew this would happen. I like to think most people know what i mean.
Not to mention, most people doing 70mph indicated are doing nearer 63mph whilst blocking up the motorway.
And the people doing 68mph indicated are probably doing 61mph 'actual', what difference does it make? You legally go off what your car says - if someone sees their car is doing 70mph they can stay there. My car does 69 GPS when indicating 70, don't know why you actually used such a big discrepancy.
I actually understand completely what you mean, but your attitude/wording is the bit that annoyed me.
Speed limit or not, if you're in an overtaking lane and you don't need to be (i.e. you're not overtaking) it's inconsiderate.
In his example, the car in the outside lane was overtaking (just with a small speed differential).