Large increase in migrant workers.

they get an extra house ? isnt 1 enough for them ?

you found this one in one out system to be fair ?

i'd say it doesnt sound fair at all, it sounds like what americans done to the native indians

sounds awesome espcially the child benefits the parent can claim for a child in another country :rolleyes:
 
I like how people keep saying British people are lazy.

So say a farm or work place has been hiring polish people since 2004, do you think they will suddenly hire British people over Polish/Eastern Europeans?

They are going to hire the ones they can manipulate!
 
If you were operating a business, would you rather pay more to employ native workers?

you're right, thats why some businesses bring back chinese workers on a container ship and set them to work for free.. think about the profits..

if i had enough money to start my own business, i'd employ british native..

because i have ethics, not greed.
 
Why don't we deport people who aren't capable or willing to achieve (and I use that word oh so lightly) five decent GCSEs, and whenever we do, import someone who can.

Profit?
 
This is a situation that will never be stopped. Especially with the economic problems of the last few years, cheap labour is in demand and will always be. Regardless of public opinion or government policies, immigration will always bring in a large amount of cheap labour.

This has always been the case in history whatever society you look at and what ever government is in place.
 
Yes, they do.

And even if they didn't, that would be no different from a British worker not earning enough but still using government funded resources.

how do you work that out ?

their is a massive difference between we the british and migrant workers..

do you think they have the same right as us ?

obviously a lot wont earn enough so wont pay some tax, but will still pay tax on anything they buy, they also dont get given a house, they've got to work to pay their rent..

i was talking to a lad from poland who was working in asda and said he didnt get paid enough to pay the rent on his demp ridden flat so had to move into a cheaper flat.. he told me all about poland and even though he could barely afford to live in the uk it was stil better than poland..

no british person in their right mind would want to live like he was, no time off and still living in a **** hole, yet this is the way most of them live, not all but a lot, i know of another polish lad living in a lovely rented house, hes a plumber working cash in hand, so no tax paid, great for him, not so much for hmrc..
 
This is a situation that will never be stopped. Especially with the economic problems of the last few years, cheap labour is in demand and will always be. Regardless of public opinion or government policies, immigration will always bring in a large amount of cheap labour.

This has always been the case in history whatever society you look at and what ever government is in place.

agreed, they bring in wealth for who ever is employing them..

doing jobs no-one wants to do, not doing the jobs we're too lazy to do..

so could everyone stop saying we're all a bunch of lazy ****ers
 
That is what I don't understand if Poland is such a dump, how are they skilled/how did they learn anything? They are walking into jobs after getting off the coach not because they are skilled but because British employers can pay them less and if they kick up a fuss they are sacked and another immigrant is sort.

I have worked with some Polish builders and they cut corners on everything, not trained to British regs and you wonder why Poland is a dump!
 
That is what I don't understand if Poland is such a dump, how are they skilled/how did they learn anything? They are walking into jobs after getting off the coach not because they are skilled but because British employers can pay them less and if they kick up a fuss they are sacked and another immigrant is sort.

I have worked with some Polish builders and they cut corners on everything, not trained to British regs and you wonder why Poland is a dump!

lier this thread tells me polish people have the japanese work ethic ,german precision and chinese wages.

english people are lazy and dont want a job anyway
 
erm........ you think all this money that leaves the country instead of beeing spent here doesnt matter? no wonder our economy is going downhill....

You're taking a very simplistic view of how an economy works.

Also, if you start by becoming more insular, think of what will happen if every other country decides to do what you are implying. We need the rest of the world more than they need us.
 
You're taking a very simplistic view of how an economy works.

Also, if you start by becoming more insular, think of what will happen if every other country decides to do what you are implying. We need the rest of the world more than they need us.

source ? i cant find anything that says we need the world more than they need us..

we're in the top 10 most richest countrys, we import a shed load, i'd say we're pretty important to a lot of other countrys
 
Not all Polish are angels.Where I work in the past couple of months two have been escorted from the premises for drinking onsite and another turned up for work and he had one of those curfew Tags on his ankle so was let go as soon as it was seen.
 
Your stereotyping and assumptions are funny.


Patriotism is for stupid people. The British workforce is in decline; in terms of will, effort, academics and skills.

Disagree. You make your own life, you make your own luck. I am all for work/life balance. If you want to work less, make yourself more valuable and the time you do work more productive. If job competition prevents you from doing this, move onto something else.

lol @ more stereotypes.

This happens often: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-British-workers-shun-supermarket-jobs.html

A Study of Migrant Workers and the National MinimumWage and Enforcement Issues that Arise http://www.cream-migration.org/pages/LPC.pdf



Surely that is good for the country, no? We're getting a transfer of skills without having to pay more for it.

Effects on pay for The Great Brits negligible, too:



http://eprints.ucl.ac.uk/14331/1/14331.pdf
Are you sure those numbers are right (can't read the pdf on this machine)? They appear to suggest that more than half of British children leave school before they do their GCSEs! That certainly wasn't the case in my experience (I did my gcses around 2003.
 
yeah thats a bit of a contradiction, but what i mean is a lot of countrys rely on us importing their goods, yes we rely on other countrys but as much as they rely on us.
 
this whole thread is one big stereotype..

to say the british are lazy *****, why dont you lobby for why we arent, and not for why we are..

Because the sad truth is they are Lazy.

If they were so interested in working then they would have taken those normal day to day jobs that pay the minimum wage. The fact is that years / decades of free government handouts have made the majority of the non skilled based workforce apathetic, Lazy and delusional.

Successive governments have bred a society that has a warped sense of entitlement with no responsibilities. That is the problem.

The common attitude is why should I go to work for say 150-200 quid a week doing something manual / cleaning / waiting job when i can sit on my fat arse watch jeremy kyle and play COD4 on my PS3 while getting paid to do that by the taxpayer through the extraordinarily generous benefits scheme in this country, which incidently I don't even have to feel responsible for because I never have to pay any of it back or even really make an attempt to get a job provided I take my 10 burger eating ass down to the job centre every now and again.

I have seen what these layabouts do when they get to the job centre. They usually abuse the staff and say 'look the only reason i am here is because I lose my benefits if i don't show up'

These people have no interest or desire to work, they are has as been stated in this thread by numerous people Lazy Bone Idle Scalliwags.

So as these jobs need to still be done who steps in to fill the breach ? yes you got it migrants, and why is that again, because the natives who could do these jobs are lazy.
 
could you be more spercific with who is lazy and who isnt, becuase you're claiming all british native workers are lazy

62million people in the uk, 2million people out of work, thats hardly lazy and most of that 2million will have lost their job due to the recession.

i wouldnt mind finding out how many people have been on jsa for over 10 yr, this small minority of people should have their benefits slashed
 
I have seen what these layabouts do when they get to the job centre. They usually abuse the staff and say 'look the only reason i am here is because I lose my benefits if i don't show up'

You make it sound like everyone is the same. Please stop stereotyping.

There's respectable people signing on with a decent educational background who can't get jobs in this climate !
 
Not all Polish are angels.Where I work in the past couple of months two have been escorted from the premises for drinking onsite and another turned up for work and he had one of those curfew Tags on his ankle so was let go as soon as it was seen.

Exactly. Each country has their fair share of reprobates !
 
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