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** LAST ROUND OF DEALS FROM NVIDIA - LAST CHANCE BUY ON 1080/1080Ti!! **

Hopefully Turing manages to do DX12 & Vulkan properly (at which Pascal is still kinda 'eh' at), so they can be on par with AMD in those scenarios as well (in terms of expected performance).
 
They don't gimp drivers anymore (if they ever did) they'll simply put less effort into fine-tuning Pascal drivers for upcoming games. It's nothing new, they both do it.
They never did IMO, it's just GPU owners paranoia :). Of course they'll spend more time developing the drivers for the latest generation and old gen GPU drivers will be pretty optimised anyway but to say either NV or AMD purposely gimp old GPU's via the drivers is ludicrous.
Drivers tend to be backward compatible too IMO. I'm fairly sure a 20 series GPU's will play 10 year old games pretty well for example and you can be sure NV haven't gone back and tested every single game.
 
News on Pascal prices & supply, looks to be here for the holiday season as well, being sold in tandem with Turing. Pricing makes more sense now, they are covering every $ range.
So 1070 @ £400, 1070 Ti @ £450, 1080 @ £510...

Depressing as hell how the prices for these cards just won't drop.

I think this is the real legacy of the mining boom. The days of cards getting cheaper during their lifetime seems to be over. I think gamers have just resigned themselves to buying at higher prices and both retailers and nV know it. So now, mining or no mining, we get to pay premium prices for 2 year old cards (still).

Still nope.jpg from me tho. I'd rather game on a etch-a-sketch than be part of this market.
 
I wonder if the bookies have how long it’ll be before Nvidia start gimping drivers for non RTX cards.

I’d put a tenner on 6 months.

heh, people dont seems to happy with your comment :P. The thing is though nvidia don't gimp drivers, that is not how they "encourage" people to upgrade and it would be pointless as people would just load an older archived driver instead. Instead they do it by pushing a feature the new cards is good at that the old gen isn't and then pay a few game devs to over use it. You cannot easily point your finger at this since its bound to happen even naturally as tech has to progress somehow and that leaves older cards a fair bit behind when new major tech appears. However nvidia has a nak for doing this even when its not necessary or asked for.
 
not even slightly tempted. i'll wait for nvidia to realise the magnitude of their disastrously overpriced launch.

this generation is the first one ever to cost more per fps than the previous gen.
 
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So 1070 @ £400, 1070 Ti @ £450, 1080 @ £510...

Depressing as hell how the prices for these cards just won't drop.

I think this is the real legacy of the mining boom. The days of cards getting cheaper during their lifetime seems to be over. I think gamers have just resigned themselves to buying at higher prices and both retailers and nV know it. So now, mining or no mining, we get to pay premium prices for 2 year old cards (still).

Still nope.jpg from me tho. I'd rather game on a etch-a-sketch than be part of this market.

Depressing for those that don't own them, for those that do, it's positive news. My 780 lost roughly 75% of it's value upon resale after 980ti release but before 10 series release. My 1080 would need to sell for around £155 to match that and I can't see that happening if sold around the same time. Both cards purchased new shortly after launch and both comparable (mid/upper range). Whilst the outlay may be more, they're holding value better.
 
Depressing for those that don't own them, for those that do, it's positive news. My 780 lost roughly 75% of it's value upon resale after 980ti release but before 10 series release. My 1080 would need to sell for around £155 to match that and I can't see that happening if sold around the same time. Both cards purchased new shortly after launch and both comparable (mid/upper range). Whilst the outlay may be more, they're holding value better.

I still have a 7950HD, 290 and a 980Ti sitting on the shelf. This is good news if I ever get around to selling them.
 
Depressing for those that don't own them, for those that do, it's positive news. My 780 lost roughly 75% of it's value upon resale after 980ti release but before 10 series release. My 1080 would need to sell for around £155 to match that and I can't see that happening if sold around the same time. Both cards purchased new shortly after launch and both comparable (mid/upper range). Whilst the outlay may be more, they're holding value better.
Would you rather have progress or resale value? Given that a boost to one has a negative impact on the other.
 
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