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The new jungle camp from what it seems is equiv to a big golem only I think it does slightly less damage.... Seems from this that they want junglers to be farming more and ganking less and I guess the free wards will help prevent that aswell.
So farm to mid/late game and hopefully be big enough to compete in a tf.
Im starting to adopt Trick2g's philosopohy of just not giving a **** now, I gank push lanes so hard , steal lanes cs - I dont care anymore. They bitch and moan about it I just mute them, seems to be working well so far. 2 games last night I switched back to Xin as havent played in ages and absolutely destroyed with tri force and stacking CDR - wasnt even a contest.
So farm to mid/late game and hopefully be big enough to compete in a tf.
Im starting to adopt Trick2g's philosopohy of just not giving a **** now, I gank push lanes so hard , steal lanes cs - I dont care anymore. They bitch and moan about it I just mute them, seems to be working well so far. 2 games last night I switched back to Xin as havent played in ages and absolutely destroyed with tri force and stacking CDR - wasnt even a contest.
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Im new to the game, and have been learning the mechanics via bot games.
Looking to have 3 or 4 champs that I can use to some degree of competence to be able to cover all lanes/roles if needed, before I venture into PvP.
I have discovered I like Morgana, who can cover Mid or Bot as support.
So Im looking for a champ I can use top lane, preferably a ranged champ as I don't seem to do too well with melee characters.
Any recommendations? I did buy Elise, but I am still learning her mechanics and Im not sure about her.
Looking to have 3 or 4 champs that I can use to some degree of competence to be able to cover all lanes/roles if needed, before I venture into PvP.
I have discovered I like Morgana, who can cover Mid or Bot as support.
So Im looking for a champ I can use top lane, preferably a ranged champ as I don't seem to do too well with melee characters.
Any recommendations? I did buy Elise, but I am still learning her mechanics and Im not sure about her.
I'd recommend Kennen or Vladimir as they can farm quite safely vs the majority of melee bruisers that you see in the top lane these days. Or if you do fancy a melee then i'd suggest Renekton as he's probably the easiest champ to learn top lane as he has a good stun, gap closer and damage even when built tanky.
Looking at the changes on PBE and the mastery changes have some nice little notes on there -
Offense
Tier 1
Feast (1 Rank) – Each time you kill a unit restore 2 health and 1 mana
Fury (4 Ranks) – Gain 1.25/2.5/3.75/5% increased Attack Speed
Sorcery (4 Ranks) – Gain 1.25/2.5/3.75/5% Cooldown Reduction
Butcher (1 Rank) – Deal 2 additional damage versus minions with basic attacks and single target spells (does not included Damage over time effects or Area of Effect spells)
Tier 2
Doubled Edge Sword (1 Rank) – Melee: Deal an additional 2% damage and receive 1% additional damage. Ranged: Deal and recieve an additional 1.5% damage
Brute Force (3 Ranks) – +4/8/12 Attack Damage at level 18 (+0.22/0.44/0.66 per level)
Mental Force (3 Ranks) – +6/12/18 Ability Power at level 18 (+.33/.66/.99 per level)
Tier 3
Spell Weaving (1 Rank) – Damaging an enemy champion with an auto attack increases your spell damage by 1% stacking up to 3 times. (Max 3% damage increase)
Martial Mastery (1 Rank) (Req Brute Force) – +5 Attack Damage
Arcane Mastery (1 Rank) (Req Mental Force)- +8 Ability Power
Executioner (3 Ranks) – Increases damage dealt to champions below 20/35/50% health by 5%
Tier 4
Blade Weaving (1 Rank)(Req Spell Weaving) – Damaging an enemy champion with a spell increases your basic attack damage by 1% stacking up to 3 times. (Max 3% damage increase) This cannot be trigger more than once per second
Warlord (3 Ranks) -Increases Bonus Attack Damage by 2/3.5/5%
Archmage (3 Ranks) – Increases Ability Power by 2/3.5/5%
Dangerous Game (1 Rank) (Req Executioner)- Killing a champion restores 5% of your missing health and mana
Tier 5
Frenzy (1 Rank) – Critical hits increases your attack speed by 5% for 3 seconds (stacks up to 3 times)
Devastating Strikes (3 Ranks) – +2/4/6% Armor and Magic penetration
Arcane Blade (1 Rank) – Your basic attacks also deal bonus magic damage equal to 5% of your Ability Power
Tier 6
Havoc (1 Rank) – 3% Increased Damage
Defense
Tier 1
Block (2 Ranks) – Reduce incoming damage from champion basic attacks by 1/2
Recovery (2 Ranks) – +1 health per 5 seconds
Enchanted Armor (2 Ranks) – Increase your bonus Armor and Magic Resistance by 2.5/5%
Tough Skin (2 Ranks) – Reduce damage taken from neutral monsters by 1/2, This does not effect lane minions
Tier 2
Unyielding (1 Rank)(Req Block) – Melee – Reduce all incoming damage from champions by 2 Ranged – Reduce all incoming damage from champions by 1
Veteran Scars (3 Ranks) – +12/24/36 Health
Bladed Armor (1 Rank) – Enemy monsters that attack you bleed dealing damage equal to 1% of their current health each second.\nThis does not work against lane minions.
Tier 3
Oppression (1 Rank) – Reduces damage taken by 3% from enemies that have impaired movement (Slows, snares, taunts, stuns, etc)
Juggernaut (1 Rank)(Req Veteran Scars) – +3% Maximum Health
Hardiness (3 Ranks) – +2/3.5/5 Armor
Resistance (3 Ranks) – +2/3.5/5 Magic Resistance
Tier 4
Perseverance (3 Ranks) – +1/2/3% of your missing health every 5 seconds
Swiftness (1 Rank) – Reduce the effectiveness of slows by 10%
Reinforced Armor (1 Rank)(Req Hardiness) – Reduces damage taken by critical strikes by 10%
Evasive (1 Rank)(Req Resistance) – Reduces damage taken by 4% from Area of Effect magic damage
Tier 5
Second Wind (1 Rank)(Req Perseverance) – Increase all sources of incoming healing by 10% when below 25% health
Legendary Guardian (4 Ranks) – +1/2/3/4 Armor and 0.5/1/1.5/2 Magic Resistance for each nearby enemy champion
Runic Shield (1 Rank) – Start the game with a 50 health shield. This shield regenerates each time you respawn
Tier 6
Tenacious (1 Rank) – Reduces the duration of crowd control effects by 15%
Utility
Tier 1
Phasewalker (1 Rank) – Reduces the casting time of Recall by 1 second
Fleet of Foot (3 Ranks) – +0.5/1/1.5% movement speed
Meditation (3 Ranks) – +1/2/3 mana regen per 5
Scout (1 Rank) – Increases the cast range of wards and trinket items by 10%
Tier 2
Conjuror (1 Rank) – Summoned units, traps, and clones have 10% increased duration. This does not work on wards
Summoner’s Insight (3 Ranks) – Reduces the cooldown of Summoner Spells by 4/7/10%
Strength of Spirit (1 Rank)(Req Meditation) – Gain Health Regeneration equal to 10% of your Mana Regeneration
Alchemist (1 Rank) – Increases the duration of your potions and elixirs by 10%
Tier 3
Greed (3 Ranks) – +.5/1/1.5 gold every 10 seconds
Runic Affinity (1 Rank) – Increases the duration of shrine, relic, quest, and neutral monster buffs by 20%
Vampirism (3 Ranks) – +1/2/3% lifesteal and spellvamp
Culinary Master (1 Rank)(Req Alchemist) – Your health potions are upgraded into Biscuits that restore an additional 20 health and 10 mana instantly upon consumption
Tier 4
Wealth (1 Rank) (Req Greed)- +40 Starting Gold
Bandit (1 Rank) – Melee: Grants an additional 15 Gold on Champion kill or assist Ranged: You gain 3 gold each time you attack an enemy champion. This cannot trigger on the same champion more than once every 5 seconds
Expanded Mind (3 Ranks) – +2/3.5/5% increased maximum mana
Inspiration (2 Ranks) – +5 experience every 10 seconds while near a higher level allied champion
Tier 5
Scavenger (1 Rank) (Req Bandit)- +1 Gold each time an ally kills a nearby lane minion
Intelligence (3 Rank) – +2/3.5/5% Cooldown Reduction and reduces the cooldown of Activated Items by 4/7/10%
Tier 6
Wanderer (1 Rank) – Gain 5% increased movement speed out of combat
Tier 1
Feast (1 Rank) – Each time you kill a unit restore 2 health and 1 mana
Fury (4 Ranks) – Gain 1.25/2.5/3.75/5% increased Attack Speed
Sorcery (4 Ranks) – Gain 1.25/2.5/3.75/5% Cooldown Reduction
Butcher (1 Rank) – Deal 2 additional damage versus minions with basic attacks and single target spells (does not included Damage over time effects or Area of Effect spells)
Tier 2
Doubled Edge Sword (1 Rank) – Melee: Deal an additional 2% damage and receive 1% additional damage. Ranged: Deal and recieve an additional 1.5% damage
Brute Force (3 Ranks) – +4/8/12 Attack Damage at level 18 (+0.22/0.44/0.66 per level)
Mental Force (3 Ranks) – +6/12/18 Ability Power at level 18 (+.33/.66/.99 per level)
Tier 3
Spell Weaving (1 Rank) – Damaging an enemy champion with an auto attack increases your spell damage by 1% stacking up to 3 times. (Max 3% damage increase)
Martial Mastery (1 Rank) (Req Brute Force) – +5 Attack Damage
Arcane Mastery (1 Rank) (Req Mental Force)- +8 Ability Power
Executioner (3 Ranks) – Increases damage dealt to champions below 20/35/50% health by 5%
Tier 4
Blade Weaving (1 Rank)(Req Spell Weaving) – Damaging an enemy champion with a spell increases your basic attack damage by 1% stacking up to 3 times. (Max 3% damage increase) This cannot be trigger more than once per second
Warlord (3 Ranks) -Increases Bonus Attack Damage by 2/3.5/5%
Archmage (3 Ranks) – Increases Ability Power by 2/3.5/5%
Dangerous Game (1 Rank) (Req Executioner)- Killing a champion restores 5% of your missing health and mana
Tier 5
Frenzy (1 Rank) – Critical hits increases your attack speed by 5% for 3 seconds (stacks up to 3 times)
Devastating Strikes (3 Ranks) – +2/4/6% Armor and Magic penetration
Arcane Blade (1 Rank) – Your basic attacks also deal bonus magic damage equal to 5% of your Ability Power
Tier 6
Havoc (1 Rank) – 3% Increased Damage
Defense
Tier 1
Block (2 Ranks) – Reduce incoming damage from champion basic attacks by 1/2
Recovery (2 Ranks) – +1 health per 5 seconds
Enchanted Armor (2 Ranks) – Increase your bonus Armor and Magic Resistance by 2.5/5%
Tough Skin (2 Ranks) – Reduce damage taken from neutral monsters by 1/2, This does not effect lane minions
Tier 2
Unyielding (1 Rank)(Req Block) – Melee – Reduce all incoming damage from champions by 2 Ranged – Reduce all incoming damage from champions by 1
Veteran Scars (3 Ranks) – +12/24/36 Health
Bladed Armor (1 Rank) – Enemy monsters that attack you bleed dealing damage equal to 1% of their current health each second.\nThis does not work against lane minions.
Tier 3
Oppression (1 Rank) – Reduces damage taken by 3% from enemies that have impaired movement (Slows, snares, taunts, stuns, etc)
Juggernaut (1 Rank)(Req Veteran Scars) – +3% Maximum Health
Hardiness (3 Ranks) – +2/3.5/5 Armor
Resistance (3 Ranks) – +2/3.5/5 Magic Resistance
Tier 4
Perseverance (3 Ranks) – +1/2/3% of your missing health every 5 seconds
Swiftness (1 Rank) – Reduce the effectiveness of slows by 10%
Reinforced Armor (1 Rank)(Req Hardiness) – Reduces damage taken by critical strikes by 10%
Evasive (1 Rank)(Req Resistance) – Reduces damage taken by 4% from Area of Effect magic damage
Tier 5
Second Wind (1 Rank)(Req Perseverance) – Increase all sources of incoming healing by 10% when below 25% health
Legendary Guardian (4 Ranks) – +1/2/3/4 Armor and 0.5/1/1.5/2 Magic Resistance for each nearby enemy champion
Runic Shield (1 Rank) – Start the game with a 50 health shield. This shield regenerates each time you respawn
Tier 6
Tenacious (1 Rank) – Reduces the duration of crowd control effects by 15%
Utility
Tier 1
Phasewalker (1 Rank) – Reduces the casting time of Recall by 1 second
Fleet of Foot (3 Ranks) – +0.5/1/1.5% movement speed
Meditation (3 Ranks) – +1/2/3 mana regen per 5
Scout (1 Rank) – Increases the cast range of wards and trinket items by 10%
Tier 2
Conjuror (1 Rank) – Summoned units, traps, and clones have 10% increased duration. This does not work on wards
Summoner’s Insight (3 Ranks) – Reduces the cooldown of Summoner Spells by 4/7/10%
Strength of Spirit (1 Rank)(Req Meditation) – Gain Health Regeneration equal to 10% of your Mana Regeneration
Alchemist (1 Rank) – Increases the duration of your potions and elixirs by 10%
Tier 3
Greed (3 Ranks) – +.5/1/1.5 gold every 10 seconds
Runic Affinity (1 Rank) – Increases the duration of shrine, relic, quest, and neutral monster buffs by 20%
Vampirism (3 Ranks) – +1/2/3% lifesteal and spellvamp
Culinary Master (1 Rank)(Req Alchemist) – Your health potions are upgraded into Biscuits that restore an additional 20 health and 10 mana instantly upon consumption
Tier 4
Wealth (1 Rank) (Req Greed)- +40 Starting Gold
Bandit (1 Rank) – Melee: Grants an additional 15 Gold on Champion kill or assist Ranged: You gain 3 gold each time you attack an enemy champion. This cannot trigger on the same champion more than once every 5 seconds
Expanded Mind (3 Ranks) – +2/3.5/5% increased maximum mana
Inspiration (2 Ranks) – +5 experience every 10 seconds while near a higher level allied champion
Tier 5
Scavenger (1 Rank) (Req Bandit)- +1 Gold each time an ally kills a nearby lane minion
Intelligence (3 Rank) – +2/3.5/5% Cooldown Reduction and reduces the cooldown of Activated Items by 4/7/10%
Tier 6
Wanderer (1 Rank) – Gain 5% increased movement speed out of combat
*copied and pasted from http://www.newsoflegends.com/ as it's pretty much the only LoL site I can access from work*
Xin in lane is an absolute monster, build Botrk, tri force and ghostblade, its really strong, your build will vary but these are pretty core items on him, if you start dorans blade with lifesteal runes, his w provides so much sustain which is good, also there is no need for armor pen reds on him due to his passive.
With how long it takes to build up the extra income from the 'jungle items' Riot is basically asking you to decide if you wish to be a farm lots, gank little jungler or a roaming support pretty much.
damn morgana supports lol.
i beat a morgana top the other day her lane clear was ace but she couldn't handle the j4 once she'd used he stun i could chase her off lane. didn't need to kill her just bash her enough that she couldn't roam xD she didn't lose farm as the pool kills everything after a while.
i beat a morgana top the other day her lane clear was ace but she couldn't handle the j4 once she'd used he stun i could chase her off lane. didn't need to kill her just bash her enough that she couldn't roam xD she didn't lose farm as the pool kills everything after a while.
Gragas mid is also very good without the steep learning curve that a lot of mids have; His wave clear is excellent once you've built some AP. He zones very well with his Barrel, as you can detonate it when you want, and he has decent escape with his charge 
Last Morgana support I had called support but then stood there and did nothing. I had a lulu constantly poking me for 15 minutes while they stood behind me and occasionally shielded me. To say it was frustrating is an understatement 
I think this is why people don't want to support. They don't really know what they should be doing so they just AFK in lane which is obviously rather dull.
As for Jungle, I think the Trick2g's philosophy is the only way to win as a jungler sometimes. If you're nice you end up falling behind a ton in gold unless the enemy team constantly gives you gank opportunities which makes it hard to carry the game. Like you found the consequences are they'll moan at you a ton but you always get moaned at with jungling anyway I've seen Trick go 13 kills up as Udyr and his lanes were still giving him ****! It's ridiculous.
I think this is why people don't want to support. They don't really know what they should be doing so they just AFK in lane which is obviously rather dull. As for Jungle, I think the Trick2g's philosophy is the only way to win as a jungler sometimes. If you're nice you end up falling behind a ton in gold unless the enemy team constantly gives you gank opportunities which makes it hard to carry the game. Like you found the consequences are they'll moan at you a ton but you always get moaned at with jungling anyway
I've seen Trick go 13 kills up as Udyr and his lanes were still giving him ****! It's ridiculous.
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i seriosuly just block them now, last night again more moaning.
" dont push my lane"
"why steal blue"
" why steal cs"
"urgh your a noob"
"why not engage"
"uh report jungler"
unblocked them 10 mins later, and it had gone from that to "oh this guy will carry us"
rofl. Community can get ****ed as far as im concerned
" dont push my lane"
"why steal blue"
" why steal cs"
"urgh your a noob"
"why not engage"
"uh report jungler"
unblocked them 10 mins later, and it had gone from that to "oh this guy will carry us"
rofl. Community can get ****ed as far as im concerned
Haven't had any rage in games I play for like 6 months or so
You must have chat disabled then surely
Lately I've just been toying around in the jungle in ranked since I hit Plat as I can't drop any lower and while I've had fairly decent games the last few I've had the bot lanes from hell. I believe the last one was like 0/21 between them both and the one before was 3/18 or so. After that there's usually no coming back when the opposing Vayne has a BOTRK at 8mins or something equally as tragic
Of course you then get the abuse of "why you no gank" etc. but luckily that's what the mute button is for!
No way I'm going to waste my time bot lane when the enemy ADC has a Bloodthirster completed already and all you have is double Dorans and the kill potential of a parapelegic ameoba.
Last Morgana support I had called support but then stood there and did nothing. I had a lulu constantly poking me for 15 minutes while they stood behind me and occasionally shielded me. To say it was frustrating is an understatement
As for Jungle, I think the Trick2g's philosophy is the only way to win as a jungler sometimes. If you're nice you end up falling behind a ton in gold unless the enemy team constantly gives you gank opportunities which makes it hard to carry the game. Like you found the consequences are they'll moan at you a ton but you always get moaned at with jungling anyway
love watching trick play need to buy voli !!!!!
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Last Morgana support I had called support but then stood there and did nothing. I had a lulu constantly poking me for 15 minutes while they stood behind me and occasionally shielded me. To say it was frustrating is an understatement
Im new ofc - but if I support as Morgana I will shield, but also try to harass with pool and trap/pool enemy champs to set up a kill for my ADC. I guess its kind of an aggressive style of support....not sure if thats the right thing to do, but I don't know what else I should be doing as support, apart from warding.
As a general observation, supporting kind of sucks as you end up underlevelled and with less gold to make items, which is a fun part of the game.
Thanks to those above who offered advice on a top laner, Ill have a look at Kennen, seems to fit the bill.
I've pretty dropped this entirely for Smite. I like the action-hybrid aspect and everything being skillshot based.
The community doesn't seem to rage at all either, but possibly just because I am in the lower levels. Still haven't actually played with a friend, so that should be even more fun.
It's a shame though, I've pumped a fair few quid in to LoL, but I just cannot be bothered to play any more.
The community doesn't seem to rage at all either, but possibly just because I am in the lower levels. Still haven't actually played with a friend, so that should be even more fun.
It's a shame though, I've pumped a fair few quid in to LoL, but I just cannot be bothered to play any more.
Support is great IF you and your carry know what you are doing. Supporting a random is hell on earth, but I've always loved playing Morg/Naut/Blitz/Sona (even Zyra) support and zoning, setting up kills, saving my team's butt, and generally getting my carry fed.