Lean and Green - modular dual PC scratch build

My opening question was " would you mind explaining in words of one syllable exactly what cheesed you off with Bit-Tech?"

I've scrubbed everything after that. Sorry if this caused offence.

Sorry I barked at you.

Just think the problems on Bit-Tech should stay there. We don't need them over here. ;)

We have a nice build thread going here.

Maybe just contact waynio using Trust button and find out in provate.
 
Shame about Bit-Tech (can see your point though and did post earlier) glad your still updating here though - great build.
Thanks wissel I think some debating going on there might help, most recognise how the rating system isn't working right with people abusing it there, it worked OK until this year & it just kept getting worse.

Read abaout this on the other site, really glad your still here as well!!

Don't let the ******* get you down, you know who the best modder is!
:D Thanks redfist, it's really tough to define who is the best modder really, so many different approaches at play on there & pro factory vs makeshift workshop, case mods mixed with scratch builds, highly sponsored vs tight budgets, it is very unballenced for competition so that provokes people to gather external support to have a better chance & some treat it like marketing.
Knowing how unballenced the competitions are in modding I just accept it but I'm going to opt right out of any modding competitions because they are even too difficult for me to judge with being able to appreciate all approaches, people who don't look far into it they just see the end result & vote on that, it's just a messy competition really.

love the design waiting for an update :)
Thanks Mark, got 1 now. :)

Thank you for sharing this project with us...



I don't understand what's gone wrong - would you mind explaining in words of one syllable exactly what cheesed you off with Bit-Tech?

I do understand that this is a project that you have conceived and toiled long and hard over, pouring all of your time into, and for sharing that creative moment with us, I am particularly grateful for.

/non-constructive rant deleted/
1 Syllable, I guess it would be cowards.
Trolls who are too cowardly to troll people up front because they lack logical thinking so they been going all over BT knocking the ratings down on many excellent projects, they happened to do it to me when I was making a big effort to make it in time for the mod of the year deadline so it annoyed me breaking my focus. :D

Where are you finding negative comments? :confused:

I have not noticed any disrespect of waynio here. Maybe I've missed them but if there are any they are few and far between. ;)

@daynio
Patiently waiting for your next update of project. :)
:D I should have popped back in here sooner, sorry. :)

Negatives are over on Bit-tech...
It is a small minority on there, maybe even a tiny minority, I think it will pass. :)

Then why are you giving us a lecture about negative comment here?? :rolleyes:

We are not the guilty parties and have done nothing wrong.

So don't lecture us! Go lecture Bit-tech! :mad:
Wheres the fire extinguisher lol. :D

My opening question was " would you mind explaining in words of one syllable exactly what cheesed you off with Bit-Tech?"

I've scrubbed everything after that. Sorry if this caused offence.
I'm sorry for not getting back here sooner to you & doyll & anyone else. :)

Sorry I barked at you.

Just think the problems on Bit-Tech should stay there. We don't need them over here. ;)

We have a nice build thread going here.

Maybe just contact waynio using Trust button and find out in provate.
True, reason I mentioned it was it made need for a little timeout while I cool off. :D


Looks like the discussion about the stars rating system is very much in progress and going strong...

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=250884

For the record, I voted it a 5* mod, after I realised that there was even a star rating system.

I do hope that you are still working on this beautiful project, and that your commitment hasn't been wavered by some nay-sayers...
Shame they might have to dump something that worked OK until this year as it progressed further it got worse & it could all just be 1 person with multiple accounts, there have been some on there doing stuff like that, things people do when they get bored lol.

one day i`ll try doing something like that
I look forward to it fizban :) do research if serious though, I went into scratch building kinda blind :D it's only my last 3 attempts I've been getting much better, first 2 were a bit rough especially my first. :D


I have an update at last :cool: it's a small one but it's an update. :D

Deadline is canned now for me & I'm continuing to post on BT still, even got a really late message from coolermaster saying to hurry lol, I figured they didn't accept my application.
This project needs quite a lot doing still anyway & will take time to do it all nicely, I don't think I'll bother with any modding competitions anymore though, I'm happy just modding on really.

Where it was since last session but now with the 3rd revision of the HDD covers & they fit in there nicely, I also had to drill the 3mm holes a bit closer to the edge so the rods could fit in.
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The 5mm & 10mm rods with grub screws in for the tapped rods above.
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View from underneath where they are countersunk screwed in & the 3mm holes I drilled straight through & extended them more outwards so they'll fit in.
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How it is now with all the rods in place, this all needs a heck of a cleaning up by light filing & sanding to make it look a lot nicer, it'll get there.
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Right here I noticed how the light caught the dual layer side panels creating a sweet contrast so thought I'd take a shot, bit like a preview of the intended look of what the contrasts will look like when everything gets anodised but not this colour. :)
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I'm still wishing I put all the mounting points in on the design phase before I got on with making this but once I'm past this HTPC & stand everything else should be far more straight forward.

Some more shots.
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Other news.
Been wanting to make my dad a nice xbmc for quite a while & was browsing around fleabay for a cheap mini-ITX mobo & seen an Asus E35M1-I Deluxe same as the one I'm using on mine but 2nd hand for £68, owner had it since August, took the memory out of my current rig & put it in, tested & it's all good, then I finally installed the Samsung memory I bought a bit ago from here into my current rig, it's 10mm lower than normal low profile memory, low voltage & highly overclockable, no heat sink & a black PCB, got it running at 2133mhz 10,10,10,28 @1.45v, really nice memory & will be nicer still when I take the stickers off. :)

More soon & woo hoo for Christmas smilies. :D
 
Glad to see your are still plugging along. These labors of love can't be rushed.:)

You've got me thinking now about maybe building myself an nice simple test station. Was looking at the coolers I have and thinking about checking what the performance difference is between them. Have an original Cogage Arrow (disguised Silver Arrow), Silver Arrow SB-E, have TY-143 so can do SA SB-E Extreme, etc. So a nice simple test platform I can use in my study would be ideal to play on. As I worked wood in my profession probably use birch plywood. Something basic with PSU, HDD, optical drive in bottom with motherboard setting on top with PCI backing plate so can secure top of cards. Any ideas appreciated. ;)
 
Glad to see your are still plugging along. These labors of love can't be rushed.:)

You've got me thinking now about maybe building myself an nice simple test station. Was looking at the coolers I have and thinking about checking what the performance difference is between them. Have an original Cogage Arrow (disguised Silver Arrow), Silver Arrow SB-E, have TY-143 so can do SA SB-E Extreme, etc. So a nice simple test platform I can use in my study would be ideal to play on. As I worked wood in my profession probably use birch plywood. Something basic with PSU, HDD, optical drive in bottom with motherboard setting on top with PCI backing plate so can secure top of cards. Any ideas appreciated. ;)
Thanks doyll :)

All you need for that is a 2 level open table big enough for it & canabalise the needed bits from a cheap or unwanted case & use velcro to mount them to the table, will cut out vibrations too. :D

I was going to make a test bench for this because it is a modular rig, the top rig plugs on/off so with not having time restraints now I think I will. :D

are those aluminum fans these ones by any chance?

Prolimatech Aluminium Vortex Silver Wings
They are :) snipped the LED's off & cut the outer frame away just keeping the core with 4 legs, won't be getting stuck in place until it's all been anodised though, I'll use a heavy duty adhesive. :)
Bit on the expensive side for a fan but I bought 2 to be used on the front of this, really compliments the frames I made. :)

Made a hiccup when extending the holes for the 3mm rods on my last session, I simply drilled too close so the outer edge is a bit knackered on the top panel, I'll re make the affected panels moving them further in by 0.5mm so might need to get more 3mm aluminium, not sure yet.
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Showing the 3rd revision of the hdd cover pieces a bit clearer, still unsure about filing the 2 layers above to be the same or to bevel to the 3rd layer.
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Marked & drilled the first 2 mount points on the stand cover which makes the whole look more together.
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Then held the cover in place & poked a sharpie marker through onto the acrylic.
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Drilled & bunged brass inserts in.
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Testing & getting more marker points added.
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Decided to use the top mount points to share the way it mounts to the stand so it's screwed in on both sides, had to shorten 3 screws by about 3mm.
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To get the accurate marking of the upper mounts I just squeezed the assembly together & drilled through the brass insert on the drill press with a 2mm bit & then took apart & used a 3mm bit.
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Put it together & it was nice & solid piece ready to install.
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One tiny problem though, the custom fan pass through hole on the cover is I'd say about 1mm too low so it won't let me slide the HTPC in/out so it needs some careful filing so it will allow it to slide in/out, going to be difficult making sure it doesn't produce a significant gap spoiling the look.

I think it looks so much better with the covers, enjoy the shots. :)
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I'll fix any of the mentioned issues in this update on my next session. :)
 
I love OCUK's Xmas smilies

:):):)

Good to see you back Waynio - thanks for clarifying what it was that had disturbed your Karma - I'm glad that you're continuing work, and at your pace - you're doing it for the right reasons - to do the best job on the mod that you possibly can - so what if you don't get the mod i time to be considered for Mod of the year - it's the best mod that I'VE been lucky enough to witness this year, and it's taken all of this year to get where you are. Keep it up and don't compromise what you're doing by being distracted. After all, you're the one left with the mod at the end of the year - and it's better to have it forever and love it, and have enjoyed making it rather than compromising your vision...

Looking forward to the next instalment. :)
 
The fan really sets it all off.. as does the power marble... and side vents... and the soffit you just made... and the rods... ;)

In ref. to test bench. It will be a somewhat permanent rig I can use over time to check out how my different cooler perform.. and hopefully whatever my friends get too. I want to see what the actual air temp difference between intake and exhaust is as well as CPU. Most reviewers give room ambient but none seem to monitor actual intake temps.. and inside a case these temps are a critical part of testing cooler efficiency. ;)

If I was building a custom case it would be wind tunnel ducting for both CPU and GPU.. Only cool air in coolers and all hot exhaust air out of case :)

Edit: :) so do I :)
 
Truly awesome... epic doesn't even come close! ;)

That's some dedication, and the attention to detail is bordering on the obsessive! :P
 
I love OCUK's Xmas smilies

:):):)

Good to see you back Waynio - thanks for clarifying what it was that had disturbed your Karma - I'm glad that you're continuing work, and at your pace - you're doing it for the right reasons - to do the best job on the mod that you possibly can - so what if you don't get the mod i time to be considered for Mod of the year - it's the best mod that I'VE been lucky enough to witness this year, and it's taken all of this year to get where you are. Keep it up and don't compromise what you're doing by being distracted. After all, you're the one left with the mod at the end of the year - and it's better to have it forever and love it, and have enjoyed making it rather than compromising your vision...

Looking forward to the next instalment. :)
I needed extra extra time out lol, never attempted something as huge as this before though, it's a lot to chew through but it's past half way through at least. :D

The fan really sets it all off.. as does the power marble... and side vents... and the soffit you just made... and the rods... ;)

In ref. to test bench. It will be a somewhat permanent rig I can use over time to check out how my different cooler perform.. and hopefully whatever my friends get too. I want to see what the actual air temp difference between intake and exhaust is as well as CPU. Most reviewers give room ambient but none seem to monitor actual intake temps.. and inside a case these temps are a critical part of testing cooler efficiency. ;)

If I was building a custom case it would be wind tunnel ducting for both CPU and GPU.. Only cool air in coolers and all hot exhaust air out of case :)

Edit: :) so do I :)
Bit-tech is a good place to check out loads of scratch builds, you can learn quite a lot from detailed project logs before jumping into trying it out, lot of people hang around for a while before posting a project & some build up a budget for some good starter tools before starting, I just dived in with inadequate tools when I started but learnt a lot from doing it that way & it's been nice seeing the improvements as I've done more. :D

You could take parts out of a cheap retail case & make a basic 2 platform unit to mount them to, that would be the easiest & quickest way to make a test bench.

I just spent 2 hours reading this from the start. Was a very good 2 hours. Awesome build, great work. Congratulations.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. :)

how are the fans? reckon they are worth the price?
They are all about the look, not seen aluminium bladed PC fans before & they just seemed a perfect match for the custom frames I wanted to make, Akasa venoms are my new favorite fans for performance/noise/value, they shift loads of air & are PWM fans not that that will make a difference with using a fan controller but I plugged 1 into the motherboard & they are nice & quiet on lower speed but still move plenty of air.
I don't regret buying the 2 prolimatech fans because they enhance the look by a lot, they aren't noisy on full speed & do move adequate air flow but pale in comparison to akasa venoms on vital statistics & vice versa on looks.

Looking incredible, top work! Can't wait to see it all finished :D
Thanks nipnosis :D

Truly awesome... epic doesn't even come close! ;)

That's some dedication, and the attention to detail is bordering on the obsessive! :P
Yeah, definitely some obsession in this :D thanks rhodeski.

You have to be obsessed or crazy to do these projects. Both helps. :)

Really is a awsome project isn't it?
Yep, both are in check :D thanks doyll. :)

Drat. Thought I'd missed an update :(
:D

We've definitely been spoilt with updates over the past couple of months. Looking forward to your next exciting instalment...
Sorry about the sudden brakes slamming on this, wasn't intended but I really had to have a time out before continuing to get my spirits properly back up. :)

This looks insane!! jealous! :D
:D Thanks DGarfield. :)

this is just plain awesome, wish i had the time and inclination to do something like this :o
Just noticed this comment :D Thanks melvis. :)

I'll do the update on next post. :)
 
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