---Left 4 Dead 2 Thread---

To be honest if it's out in November 2009 that's a year later which is no different from EA Fifa's and other sporting brands. At least the new version has more gore, new weapons, new maps, new enemies, a re-worked AI director, wandering witches and all sorts of other stuff.

Lets be honest valve have been awesome for the last few years with free content can we really blame them for actually wanting to be a business and make some money, hell maybe they need it for HL3.

What self respecting L4D fan won't buy this, plus we don't have pricing details if valve are quick of the mark £10-£20 offer for L4D owners wouldn't be that much, I mean how much were the rubbish Fallout 3 add-ons a £10 each (not taking into account the spare 600 MS points left over) fingers crossed Valve will do an HL2:Ep3 and L4D pack with maybe something else like Portal 2 as well. I mean how awesome a pack would that be in time for the holidays.
 
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Everything you see basically could be just DLC. Pretty pathetic imo.
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reworked director, randomised locations.

probably requires a hell of a lot of recoding, and tweaking, that maybe it just didnt seem worth it, maybe the levels wouldnt work with the new weps/infected.
if it was added that way, people would want the new stuff in the old campaigns as well as the new ones, which would require even more shifting around to make it work.
seems like a lot to expect from a free addon.
 
OK just seen the trailer and now I am excited. Day time zombie killing, chainsaws, and what appears to be full dismemberment.

I also wonder if they really need to add anything to the original bar support for custom maps as the SDK has been released I am pretty sure it won't take to long for gun mods, and new maps to appear.
 
Some post on the steam forums says the things it includes:

1. New weapons and ammunition types (melee and guns)
2. New Special Infected
3. New Survivors
4. Five campaigns (and they're considering including the 4 from L4D along with them)
5. New pickups that haven't been revealed yet
6. All of the original gameplay modes plus one not yet revealed
7. Different methods of attack for panic events (needing to push a button to start it and push another button somewhere else to end it)
8. New Director AI that creates dynamic weather and even pathing in a level (not just confined to a "go left or go right" decision, the example given in the article cites a graveyard that may just be a straight line or a complex maze with dead-ends)
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Please administer to the patient with a pince of salt as I do not know the original source of this post's information! :D

However, some of those points look really nice!
 
Kearney_1988 said:
well i dont care that it will only be a year since the last one. £30 for over 200 hours of game play? yes please
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Yeh, now I've seen all the tweaks and changes, it'll do. The first one is awesome, so the 2nd will most likely be as well. Blatent cash in, but meh.

I get the feeling the old melee ability has been removed (right click taken off) and the melee weapons have been brought in to replace that. They'll probably work in tiers the same way as the other weapons, with the chainsaw being a tier 2 or whatever. If this is the case win win.

You can pretty much guarantee that the link will be on L4D2's preorder list :D
 
All i saw in the trailer was new survivors and few weapons.. and the same infected & a tank

this game is set later, there needs to be new special infected.. have the disease spread to some animals or something, make new special infected sprout wings just ANYTHING that makes it fresh.
 
the 'tank' is a different class. charges at you and shoulder barges

Also the witch has had a much needed update because she has become a sitting duck
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
All i saw in the trailer was new survivors and few weapons.. and the same infected & a tank

this game is set later, there needs to be new special infected.. have the disease spread to some animals or something, make new special infected sprout wings just ANYTHING that makes it fresh.
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that wasnt a tank.
it was a new infected.
they have witches that wander around now...

posted a link of a preview a few posts up, and i doubt they'd have shown all their cards in the preview
 
LinktoInsanity said:
Yeh, now I've seen all the tweaks and changes, it'll do. The first one is awesome, so the 2nd will most likely be as well. Blatent cash in, but meh.

I get the feeling the old melee ability has been removed (right click taken off) and the melee weapons have been brought in to replace that. They'll probably work in tiers the same way as the other weapons, with the chainsaw being a tier 2 or whatever. If this is the case win win.

You can pretty much guarantee that the link will be on L4D2's preorder list :D
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Melee is still in there, there are a few gameplay vids over on IGN. The pan looks funny, but pointless, the only other one I saw was the axe, which is an insta kill swipe. Looks like a bit of fun, but a bit of a gimmick.

The survivors don't look as good, they just have a bit of a comedy, silly vibe about them.

New weapons are just the old weapons re modeled from what I can see.

The map in those vids look great though.

But yeah, I'll be on that preorder list too, most likeley :D
 
So they refuse to do a proper sequel to Counter-strike, the most popular online shooter of literally all time but they'll do a sequel to Left 4 Dead after six months? WTF?
 
wat...

One DLC pack and a bunch of poor gameplay that still needs tweaking and we're ready to draw a line under it?

If they followed this development method with Team Fortress we would be on number 5 or 6 by now and a lot of forum members would be much poorer for it.
 
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KNiVES said:
So they refuse to do a proper sequel to Counter-strike, the most popular online shooter of literally all time but they'll do a sequel to Left 4 Dead after six months? WTF?
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I would have actually preferred this and more content/fixes on the 1st before the L4D sequel, but hopefully valve'll continue patching their first L4D game long after the release of L4D 2.

Melee is still in there
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Damit, now I don't see the point of melee weapons :(
 
Lets not forget it has new 5 campaigns plus the original 4 (if they include them) and there pretty much doubleing the content 4 new survivors, weapons, game modes, etc the is going to be a huge update bigger than the first on it's own ;-)
 
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