Legal aid should not fund asylum legal action.

What am I even reading?

They are fleeing iran to come to the UK because someone objected to their marriage?

Are you kidding me? Thats not convincing right ti asylum. Maybe just like, ignore her family?

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The Running Man said:
What am I even reading?

They are fleeing iran to come to the UK because someone objected to their marriage?

Are you kidding me? Thats not convincing right ti asylum. Maybe just like, ignore her family?

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So you don't think Christian persecution is a viable reason? After all that virtue-signalling by the right-wing media in the last couple of years about it...
 
Amazing how many of these so called asylum seekers claim to have converted to Christianity or are suddenly having homosexual urges that offend their fellow citizens in their homeland.... Bit like bogus marriages, the number of obvious scams they pull that people glibly agree to is terrible. I am sure there's somewhere much nearer to Iran where he can tie the knot without being shot by outraged relatives.
 
StriderX said:
So you don't think Christian persecution is a viable reason? After all that virtue-signalling by the right-wing media in the last couple of years about it...
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I personally now several Iranian Christians living with no problems in Iran, load of rubbish claiming it as a reason for asylum thousands of miles away.
 
You'd think folks would be overjoyed that people see the UK as a place to succeed, but no something must be wrong with that, it can't be true. It is rather funny coming from the same group of people who think that those of a left-wing proclivity are constantly beating down on the country, even more interesting is the paradox of constantly pushing the merits of a free market, just not that free.
 
StriderX said:
How do you propose they survive then? They aren't allowed to work, which is another problem as that incentivises the slave market that we have in this country.
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Stay where they were. We have absolutely no reason to see any asylum seekers in this country unless they are Irish. All of the others coming here are nothing more than economic migrants.
 
Dis86 said:
Stay where they were. We have absolutely no reason to see any asylum seekers in this country unless they are Irish. All of the others coming here are nothing more than economic migrants.
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All of them? So you can prove that absolutely none of them have valid reasons to request asylum? I guess we better tell the Hongkongers to **** off then.
 
It's a difficult one ,knowing that a lot will face prosecution or have known war with no hope etc.
However there is a system they need to go through to sift through the genuine from the criminals escaping prosecution etc and economic migrants.

On a note whilst living in the south of Sheffield in the more affluent areas there was always large protest/action groups all demanding for more action for letting more illegal immigrants to be given rights etc...

Now if they were willing to live next to them fine...but they live half a city away from the hell holes and don't see the problems it brings and don't care and if anyone complains about the problems they are all xenophobic racist unintelligent racists.
 
StriderX said:
All of them? So you can prove that absolutely none of them have valid reasons to request asylum? I guess we better tell the Hongkongers to **** off then.
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They can't get here without passing through other safe countries. Why aren't they stopping there? Hong kong is a former British colony so completely different.
 
Mrwong said:
Blame the government for everything ? The Government can be blamed for lots if things, but not everything is the Governments fault.

How far or how much are you will to spend your money on everyone else apart from your own family?

You fix your house before you attempted fix other issues.
This country does not have the finances to help the world. But it can help or reduce it's own problems.
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I'm not blaming them for everything, if you want more money spent on UK citizens then start with holding the government to account on the billions they waste every year.

If I believed I was getting value for the money, I'd happily contribute as much as I could afford to.

"Help the world", lol give me a break, look at the numbers other countries (most of which are poorer) are having to deal with compared to the UK. It's being deliberately overblown.
 
StriderX said:
You'd think folks would be overjoyed that people see the UK as a place to succeed, but no something must be wrong with that, it can't be true. It is rather funny coming from the same group of people who think that those of a left-wing proclivity are constantly beating down on the country, even more interesting is the paradox of constantly pushing the merits of a free market, just not that free.
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The problem is with immigration from certain cultures we see large increases in particularly unpleasant crimes;

Child grooming/rape
Murder
Terrorism

To other unpleasant and costly to the taxpayer/public:

Insurance fraud gangs
Healthcare tourism


As a country we are set up in a way that will pay welfare and give free health care. However,if this is abused by hundreds of thousands of immigrants it becomes unsustainable as they are putting nothing into the pot but draining too much out..
 
Again, I refer people to this podcast from Adam Buxton, which was a total eye opener for me: https://developmenteducation.ie/blo...r-hassan-akkads-journey-from-syria-to-the-uk/

Most of the arguments people have are explained in that podcast, such as:

Q "Why is it that all the men come over, but are happy to leave their wives and children behind if it's so dangerous?"

A "Because the Syrian army only conscripts males, and it's a civil war where people don't necessarily want to kill their own countrymen, so they escape"

Q "Why do they have designer clothes and mobile phones"

A "Because they don't come from third World countries. Syria and Iran aren't (or at least, weren't) dirt-poor countries. People do have stuff there, that doesn't mean they don't want to flee"
 
Ah, these are the best threads in GD :D

On one hand you've got the ehrmahgehrd nimby's complaining that everyone should get off their lawn and on the other you've got the bleeding hearts trying to open everything up to everyone. Both sides ignore the literal billions of variables which need to be addressed to provide a reasonable assessment and instead skip straight to worst or best case scenarios, it's always the same story and always the same people, none of which are affected by any of this in any way whatsoever but we must be heard dammit! These idiots haven't a clue what they're talking about!

And I freaking love it.

I'll be back later, gonna need a TON of popcorn for this one :D
 
VincentHanna said:
Again, I refer people to this podcast from Adam Buxton, which was a total eye opener for me: https://developmenteducation.ie/blo...r-hassan-akkads-journey-from-syria-to-the-uk/

Most of the arguments people have are explained in that podcast, such as:

Q "Why is it that all the men come over, but are happy to leave their wives and children behind if it's so dangerous?"

A "Because the Syrian army only conscripts males, and it's a civil war where people don't necessarily want to kill their own countrymen, so they escape"

Q "Why do they have designer clothes and mobile phones"

A "Because they don't come from third World countries. Syria and Iran aren't (or at least, weren't) dirt-poor countries. People do have stuff there, that doesn't mean they don't want to flee"
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The question he doesnt answered, why do they come to the UK?
 
The Running Man said:
The problem is with immigration from certain cultures we see large increases in particularly unpleasant crimes;

Child grooming/rape
Murder
Terrorism

To other unpleasant and costly to the taxpayer/public:

Insurance fraud gangs
Healthcare tourism
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You can't just spaff this stuff out with no evidence.

Where is your statics showing that an increase in immigrants in the UK lead to "large increases" in murder for instance?
 
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