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**LETS SEE YOUR PILEDRIVER OVERCLOCKS - LET ME START WITH 5GHz+!!**

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simple matter is its just not as fast as the intel counterpart. most people dont care who makes what they want the best for there money. the amd 8350 is slower than the 3570k so it doesnt do as good no marketing can change that its physically slower overall.

bla bla it can beat it in this or that its slower end of.

amd do great work and im more like amd than intel. the last 7 or 8 cpus i have owned have been amd but they just cant make cpus as fast.

the pd chips are decent and for 90 percent of the planet theyll not notice the difference for enthusiasts though we do notice and thats why this debate happens on a tech forum.

lets see the 5ghz everyday clocks please :)
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It is faster overall, see for your self...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-9.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-11.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-12.html

@ Martini, its a modular design, 2 cores share one L2 cache.
 
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Still executes 8 threads, 2 threads per module.

When Bulldozer was first branded about, it was actually thought for 1 module to execute 1 thread, a sort of super thread if you would, so essentially what we see as single threaded performance would have come from both cores in the module, not a single. That would have been brilliant, literally dominating performance.
 
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To be honest i prefer the 8350 it seems quicker.
Have had a 2600k and a 3770k and the 8350 seem faster and has lower temps.
 
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Wondered how long it would be before the fighting started.

I will run some tests in a multi threaded app that average Joe actually uses.
Forget CB and x264 benches lets see what the results are with a commonly used encoding app.
 
End of the day the 8350 is worth a buy had so much fun with it. Amd have came up with a gem they deserve credit.

Never thought had be abe to get mine to 5Ghz+ and run solid. At Cas6 2200 setting. you stick video encoding in front of a 8350 it eats it alive lol!
 
There's fighting :p?
Question PCZ, what commonly used encoding app does that average Joe use?

bro306 said:
End of the day the 8350 is worth a buy had so much fun with it. Amd have came up with a gem they deserve credit.

Never thought had be abe to get mine to 5Ghz+ and run solid. At Cas6 2200 setting. you stick video encoding in front of a 8350 it eats it alive lol!
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Not surprisingly really, 5GHZ FX83 with that RAM speed and timings, wouldn't half mind that, in no way at all would I consider that poor when it's fully loaded.
 
PCZ said:
Handbrake
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If I asked everyone I know if they know what handbrake is they'd look at me confused.

I guess it depends what we determine the average joe is.

My girlfriend thought handbrake was a game, and my GF's Dad who is capable with PC's and can build them etc didn't know what handbrake was.

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Edit... ^^^^^ then perhaps i am lol

Good question, am i the average joe? :D
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Not by my definition.
 
If they don't know what Handbrake is then they have no need for powefull multi core CPU's :D

It is an open source encoding app used by millions of people worldwide.
Just about anyone who rips DVD's or BD's will have come across it or be actually using it.
 
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The average joe is honestly the person who watches youtube video's and still faps to the porn steam sites with the god awful compression.

If I was mainly encoding, I wouldn't pick an Intel CPU over an AMD at a like price, the FX8320 I'd expect to have a fair lead on the i5, given the price advantage, makes them price/performance brilliance.

The average joe doesn't even know what encoding is.

Either that, or you live in a place populated with rather technically minded people.
 
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So your saying average Joe doesn't rip DVD's from blocbuster ?
Stop making edits :)

Yes i am surrounded by very talented it professionals.
 
Average joe streams from one of those poor streaming sites from my experience.
Never see "ANYONE KNOW WHERE TO WATCH FREE FILMS?" from people on FB :p?

Or if they do go out to Blockbusters, I'd say the average joe I know just watches it and returns it.

For the older folk, I see them buying dodgy DVD's from people who download and burn.
 
Martini1991, i feel 'your' average joe would be quite happy with a SB Pentium, it doesn't look like they would have a need for anything more than that, and if they do then they have been living under a rock.
 
The average joe is far from intelligent, they wouldn't even know what's in their PC, nor would they care.

But this isn't about what hardware they need.

Out of the 100's of people you will know Humbug, how many of those are they type of people to encode stuff?
I'd say about 5 people I know could, and they're not exactly average joes.

EDIT : Then again, for all I know you're all secluded people whom have an average joe as knowledgeable as yourself.

When I'm out on a night, I'd be surprised if even a handful of the literally 100's of people out could even tell me the brand of their CPU, let alone do something productive on the PC bar write a document.
 
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Martini1991 said:
The average joe is far from intelligent, they wouldn't even know what's in their PC, nor would they care.

But this isn't about what hardware they need.

Out of the 100's of people you will know Humbug, how many of those are they type of people to encode stuff?
I'd say about 5 people I know could, and they're not exactly average joes.
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Then they are not average joe's who encode stuff, in which case all they need is a SB Pentium.

So perhaps PCZ should re-phrase that for you, how about "the average Joe who encodes stuff"
 
Martin
Are you saying this threads audience are not very intelligent average Joe's ?

Or, are the people who would want fast multi core CPU's to do a bit of encoding.
 
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Well, the 3570K is only 10% ahead of the FX-8350 in those few games where Intel is faster so that works both ways.
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Yeah I've never really considered 10-15% speed differences between CPUs that significant unless your main useage is days long procesing jobs. When comparing a CPU to buy however you need to look at how they perform for your usage and for most people the wider all-around performance is generally what will count unless buying for a very specific task.
 
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