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**LETS SEE YOUR PILEDRIVER OVERCLOCKS - LET ME START WITH 5GHz+!!**

@ Rroff, Fair Enough :)

Martini1991 said:
I'm saying this threads audience are in no way the average joe.
By average joe, I'm assuming you mean the normal every day person?
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As i said perhaps PCZ should rephrase it to "the average Joe who encodes stuff"

I mean (semantics aside) you have to assume that's what he was talking about. i mean come on! :p why would they need Handbreak if they are not encoding stuff?
 
When he said average joe, I just assumed the average joe, I was saying they wouldn't be using handbrake, let alone running heavily multi threaded applications :p

But yeah, the average computer literate Phil (Needs a new name now)
 
nkata
Well done on getting a run in at 5Ghz.
How many attempts did you make ?

What secret sauce did you use
 
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nkata
Well done on getting a run in at 5Ghz.
How many attempts did you make ?

What secret sauce did you use
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No secret sauce really. I upped the bus to 235 from 231 and ran successfully at 1.5V and 4.935GHx, did not run at 235 x 22 so dropped the 235 to 232 and got a run in at 21.5x . Not happy with 1.5V so lowered the voltage two notches. It worked.

Cooling with Phanteks air on PWM with a viper 120mm exhaust in the case.

I have previously played around with 5GHz+ up to 5200MHz but only quick boots into windows and running CPU-z. I have primed on a couple of threads above 5GHz but not for a length of time
 
1.5v isn't that high, I'm running that for 4.7ghz 24/7. If I had a better case with proper cooling I'd happily go up to 1.55v.

I love the way that this discussion strayed off into a discussion about what an average joe is! :D

Also, on the subject of handbrake, there are lots of people using very similar apps to compress video for their iPads and whatever. Certainly more than have three 7970s! So handbrake is a very relevant comparison, and certainly more relevant than ******* SuperPI!!! :rolleyes:

I do agree with Martin though that it's an odd scenario where the Intel CPU is the one you'd have with three 7970s. Consider this though. Should AMD be criticised for not creating a fast enough CPU, or congratulated for creating excllent performing GPUs? :)
 
Rroff said:
When comparing a CPU to buy however you need to look at how they perform for your usage and for most people the wider all-around performance is generally what will count unless buying for a very specific task.
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Which means you would have to splash out on the 3770k, because at the £150-£180 range you have to choose either heavy workload performance or single threaded performance for older game engines. Is the extra IPC worth the extra cost of the 3750k, and if so is it OK to loose a bit of heavy loaded performance over the 8350? This is the choice now, and I think AMD have made it difficult to choose with the pricing because for me the slight loss of IPC and heavy loaded gain is a better option for some cash saved.

Under £150 the 8320 is the only worthwhile choice.
 
humbug said:
It is faster overall, see for your self...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-9.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-11.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-12.html

@ Martini, its a modular design, 2 cores share one L2 cache.
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you chose those benchmarks to show its faster for your benefit overall its slower thats why its priced lower than the 3570k ;)

its that simple

if you want to see what it is priced to compete with its this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-443-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=567

thats why its priced that way .
 
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wolvers said:
I do agree with Martin though that it's an odd scenario where the Intel CPU is the one you'd have with three 7970s. Consider this though. Should AMD be criticised for not creating a fast enough CPU, or congratulated for creating excllent performing GPUs? :)
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They should be criticised for the CPU's and praised for the GPU's.
Can't forget one thing because they do another right, nor can you forget the GPU's because of their CPU's, and their GPU's are the only things I buy, bar my brief GTX680 stint.

Still don't understand the PCI-E 3.0 thing, it's likely we'll have the next generation of GPU's before AMD has PCI-E 3.0 motherboards, unless AMD brings out a new chipset (But then the value argument becomes moot)

Their GPU's are stellar, but as PCZ has shown, even 2 7970's can get bottlenecked in Heaven with the FX83, there's no choice, I can't support them unless I want to compromise performance, but to compromise performance makes buying dual GPU's moot, as you buy them for the performance :p

Anyway, enough off topic, PCZ and his average Phil results are being waited upon.
 
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wolvers said:
1.5v isn't that high, I'm running that for 4.7ghz 24/7. If I had a better case with proper cooling I'd happily go up to 1.55v.

I love the way that this discussion strayed off into a discussion about what an average joe is! :D

Also, on the subject of handbrake, there are lots of people using very similar apps to compress video for their iPads and whatever. Certainly more than have three 7970s! So handbrake is a very relevant comparison, and certainly more relevant than ******* SuperPI!!! :rolleyes:

I do agree with Martin though that it's an odd scenario where the Intel CPU is the one you'd have with three 7970s. Consider this though. Should AMD be criticised for not creating a fast enough CPU, or congratulated for creating excllent performing GPUs? :)
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Hehe.. its right, ^^^^^ and i have to be honest, AMD GPU's are pretty sweet and cut it right at the very top, right now some might rightfuly argue that the 7970 GE is the fastest single GPU on earth.

But it is pretty bloody ironic that you need an Intel CPU to get the very best out of them in all situations, i even find it perversely amusing.

But that does not take way from the fact that AMD's CPU's offer good performance for not much money.

Perhaps one day they will once again be more competitive with Intel at the top end.

Piledriver was a 'Tick' all be it a decent one over Bulldozer, it really just fixed most of what was wrong with it and improved the performance a bit.

Steamroller is AMD's next 'Tok', 28nm and there should be a decent IPC improvement, 'excavator' <- oh Good Grief... not again with this construction machinery theme, is the next 'Gong' if there is to be a catch up with Intel at the top end that's it.

~>Dg<~ said:
you chose those benchmarks to show its faster for your benefit overall its slower thats why its priced lower than the 3570k ;)

its that simple

if you want to see what it is priced to compete with its this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-443-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=567

thats why its priced that way .
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DG, its no good saying its slower over and over again and then continue to say it over and over again when the benchmarks prove otherwise;- while also complain about using those benchmarks which you would be all over constantly if they showed the Intel faster, your suiting your own agenda by making silly unsubstantiated blanket statements.

And its so obvious, you have some nerve i'll give you that, is this what the Intel camp is getting reduced to? fascinating.

BTW, you can't overclock your quoted CPU and its slower overall at the same price.
 
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