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I was only citing the 6400 because it has know low lag of 20ms for gaming. Perhaps some 7000 and 8000 series have low lag too? But like you said, they dont tend to be made in the 32" to 40" sizes.

But the point remains that apart from them being too big you can get FALD and UHD certification for less than you can get high end PC monitors.
 
Greebo said:
Well get used to it. Same applies to any other PC monitor maker launching their new £1000 - £1500 screen with worse features than a £400 TV.........................................:p
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Silly prices. Not like I don't have the money, just hate the feeling of overpaying. I like to buy something knowing I got what I personally feel like is value for money. Releasing another IPS monitor with fake HDR and asking one grand for it is just ludicrous to me personally. Should be about half that.
 
Greebo said:
I was only citing the 6400 because it has know low lag of 20ms for gaming. Perhaps some 7000 and 8000 series have low lag too? But like you said, they dont tend to be made in the 32" to 40" sizes.

But the point remains that apart from them being too big you can get FALD and UHD certification for less than you can get high end PC monitors.
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Yeah they have similar low latency, for a TV anyhow. Pretty stunning TVs, just smallest is 49" which is ridiculous.

Daniel - LG said:
Loving how an LG monitor thread has moved to a Samsung TV one........
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Not your fault Daniel, but the maximum 60hz refresh rate on 4k panels is a bit of a bug a boo to their ability to differentiate themselves from TVs, leaving the low latency (which will always be enough for me). Very much am looking forward to reviews coming out on this though, 32" is too large for me on reflection in 16:9 due to online gaming (especially without a curve to allow seeing it all), but would be interested to see what can be delivered.

TNA said:
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Silly prices. Not like I don't have the money, just hate the feeling of overpaying. I like to buy something knowing I got what I personally feel like is value for money. Releasing another IPS monitor with fake HDR and asking one grand for it is just ludicrous to me personally. Should be about half that.
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There needs to be an element of the fact you are comparing prices of end of line TVs (new models coming out are not the prices being quoted) with a newly released product. Also everyone buys TVs a niche market buys high end monitors, a niche market which is also more demanding and more likely to send the product back sending up prices. How many people return TVs due to back light bleeding etc, bet hardly any.
 
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jeff83nz said:
There needs to be an element of the fact you are comparing prices of end of line TVs (new models coming out are not the prices being quoted) with a newly released product. Also everyone buys TVs a niche market buys high end monitors, a niche market which is also more demanding and more likely to send the product back sending up prices. How many people return TVs due to back light bleeding etc, bet hardly any.
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I do understand that. But if there was no blb in the first place then people would not be returning, in the past there was a lot less blb why is there more now?

I would rather hold off paying silly moneys for a new monitor now and get an OLED one in a few years time. At least the premium paid will be worth it, to me anyway.
 
jeff83nz said:
There needs to be an element of the fact you are comparing prices of end of line TVs (new models coming out are not the prices being quoted) with a newly released product. Also everyone buys TVs a niche market buys high end monitors, a niche market which is also more demanding and more likely to send the product back sending up prices. How many people return TVs due to back light bleeding etc, bet hardly any.
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I suspect if it was as bad as PC monitors then yes, I certainly would. What seems to be happening though, and bearing in mind how many hundreds of thousands more TVs sold, there are less returned because the same issues just arent there.

In saying that, a few years ago I bought a lemon Sony TV which on every type of picture you could see shading in certain areas of the screen as the backlight was far from even. The replacement was perfect though.

As for the prices, I get what you are saying but even when the 6400 was a brand new TV it was was still less than half the price of the equivalent pc monitor.

The only reason new models arent been quoted is that until you have a few out there or certain reviews, we have no idea what the lag figures might be and secondly the 32" to 40" range, there arent actually that many new TVs come out, they are mainly all a lot bigger - yet bizarrely still cheaper than small high end screens coming out. How much is Asus new 32" HDR monitor rumoured to be £2000 isnt it?
 
Colour reliability?

Most current good TVs are far better than any monitor out there, not to mention that TVs offer far more in terms of calibration control (on the OSD side of things)

As for "motion clarity", the OLED TVs are extremely good, it makes me laugh seeing some threads on reddit like this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/5g5wd4/after_using_oled_i_am_distracted_by_any_motion/

The only reasons to not get a TV now is input lag, the room needed for the bigger TVs and the lack of free/g sync.

I will put money on the TV market getting 2 of those "disadvantages" sorted far sooner than the vast majority of the monitor industry actually moving forward with tech. such as FALD, OLED and all for an appropriate price.....

jeff83nz said:
I would kill for a smaller version of the 58" 902b, thing is super lush, comparing it to my top of the line samsung £800 monitor CF791 just ****** me off every time.
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Yet people will still happily pay £800+ for a "high end" monitor thinking that they are getting a "quality" display...

Like I've said before, I am done with monitors now:

- silly money for anything "high end"
- too much of a lottery
- lack of progress for improvements in colours/IQ, contrast ratio/blacks etc.

Even with my £280 29um65 compared to a £900 34" 1440, in terms of colours/IQ, they are pretty much the same, the only "real" difference is the sharpness/clarity due to the difference in PPI, in fact my 29um65 had a punchier looking image overall and was a bit better in dark content due to the slightly higher contrast ratio/lower black depth + less IPS glow helped....

I will keep my 29um65 for web/word and any competitive online gaming use until it dies or monitor manufacturers step up their game and just get an OLED TV for everything else.

Daniel - LG said:
Loving how an LG monitor thread has moved to a Samsung TV one........
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Make a quality monitor that people actually want and for a sensible price and you will then have people saying nothing but good things about LG in the monitor industry ;)

LG have pretty much led TVs into OLED territory so why not be the first to do it for the monitor sector too....
 
Nexus18 said:
Make a quality monitor that people actually want and for a sensible price and you will then have people saying nothing but good things about LG in the monitor industry ;)

LG have pretty much led TVs into OLED territory so why not be the first to do it for the monitor sector too....
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Could not have said it better myself :)
 
Nexus18 said:
Even with my £280 29um65 compared to a £900 34" 1440, in terms of colours/IQ, they are pretty much the same, the only "real" difference is the sharpness/clarity due to the difference in PPI, in fact my 29um65 had a punchier looking image overall and was a bit better in dark content due to the slightly higher contrast ratio/lower black depth + less IPS glow helped....

I will keep my 29um65 for web/word and any competitive online gaming use until it dies or monitor manufacturers step up their game and just get an OLED TV for everything else.



Make a quality monitor that people actually want and for a sensible price and you will then have people saying nothing but good things about LG in the monitor industry ;)

LG have pretty much led TVs into OLED territory so why not be the first to do it for the monitor sector too....
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The 29um65 is based off a very good IPS panel - probably one of the best in a long time - when configured for gaming latency is ok (my Dell was ~13ms with all image processing disabled IIRC not sure on the 29um65) and pixel response very good by IPS standards and when configured for max IQ it would give all but the best proper HDR sets a run for the money. Then you have the fact a lot would do 75Hz and some even hitting 80-90 though rare.
 
Rroff said:
The 29um65 is based off a very good IPS panel - probably one of the best in a long time - when configured for gaming latency is ok (my Dell was ~13ms with all image processing disabled IIRC not sure on the 29um65) and pixel response very good by IPS standards and when configured for max IQ it would give all but the best proper HDR sets a run for the money. Then you have the fact a lot would do 75Hz and some even hitting 80-90 though rare.
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All the 29" monitors seem to vary for input lag etc. IIRC, the early versions such as the 29ea and that dell had very high input lag etc. but newer versions have pretty low input lag (for a 60HZ IPS).

According to prad, the 29ub65:

The latency is an important value for players, we determine it as the sum of the signal delay time and half the average picture change time. With the LG 29UB65-P, we measure an even short signal delay with 10 milliseconds at 60 Hz. Half the mean image change time is medium-fast at 8.2 milliseconds, overall the total value for the average total latitude is 18.2 milliseconds.
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I'm not too sensitive to input lag but for motion clarity/response time, I am :( The fast preset on my 29um65 is a bit better for clarity, however, it then introduces inverse ghosting, which isn't too noticeable on most transitions....

I've tried OC'ing mine but can't get anything higher than 60HZ without frame skipping.
 
Ah my Dell U2913WM (with a load of settings disabled and gaming preset selected) was sub 16ms - don't really have the hardware to test to any better precision but its more than 8ms and less than 16ms. Mine does 75Hz without frame skipping though gets a bit warm when overclocked which is a little concerning.
 
I would consider this monitor for sure, LG make great products and we have their OLED TV in the living room but for my PC I think it needs better connectivity (hdmi 2b and DP1.4) for this kind of money.

Think 32inch is the perfect size for 4K desktop use though. Will be good to see how it the PC screen market evolves, feels like it's been stagnant for a while and all the innovation is happening on the TV side.

Let's see what else this year brings but this LG is a good start and certainly a step up from what's out there and more realistic than the ASUS/ACER 4K HDR offerings they've announced
 
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Maybe for price wise but those upcoming acer and asus HDR monitors will destroy this "fake" HDR LG monitor and make every current LCD based monitor look pitiful in comparison for IQ/colours.


I was in a certain big UK computer store and even the staff there were saying that they wouldn't pick any current monitor over a TV now but that unfortunately they have targets to meet..... Says it all :o :D
 
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