What evidence are you basing this on? LG constantly say they all work off of the same panel.
LG OLED C9 as a PC monitor - Yes, I'm crazy, Yes time to get some burn in.
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What evidence are you basing this on? LG constantly say they all work off of the same panel.
gotta say i really do miss this as a desktop user experience. i returned the OLED because i'm going back to lounge gaming but man it was so phenomenal. it felt like PC gaming had at last become perfect. oh well. maybe one day I'll return to desk gaming and if i do, this will be my most prioritised purchased.
you can shove ur 2080ti's up ur ***.. i'd take a 2060 on an OLED over sli 2080tis on the miserable excuses for PC monitors ANY DAY (apart from if i was a competitve player of course).
you can shove ur 2080ti's up ur ***.. i'd take a 2060 on an OLED over sli 2080tis on the miserable excuses for PC monitors ANY DAY (apart from if i was a competitve player of course).
How did you manage to return it after so long?
Costco 90 day return policy. They are amazing.
Sadly the 77 incher is a costly beast.. so i might opt for the Samsung Q90R 75'' or more likely whatever samsung release as the next Samsung FALD 75'' display.
OLED 77 inch models are just WAY too expensive.
Also to everyone that has got the LG OLEd.. do you guys see what i mean now compared to any PC LCD monitor?
People can prance around with their crappy LG 38' ultrawide or 34'' ultrawide FALDs or CRG9s.. but they all look PATHETIC next to these!
People can prance around with their crappy LG 38' ultrawide or 34'' ultrawide FALDs or CRG9s.. but they all look PATHETIC next to these!
yeah but if ur gaming on a couple of 1080p tvs.. why waste money on a 2080ti..
dont get me wrong.. my best gaming moment of this year has been final fantasy tactics on my psp. graphics arent the be all and end all but i struggle to understand why people budget for a 2080ti and smack it with a disgusting screen.
No, not really mean. I mean I've handled a LOT of PC monitor screens and they are look gross compared to even high end TVs (such as my panasonic 902b).
The monitor space is plagued with BLB, light bleed, IPS glow etc Its kind of a joke.
yeah i mean i have no doubt the much jerked over 38'' lg ultrawide will also look disgusting with lots of glow and uniformity issues.
one of the reasons i loved the CRG9 so much is that it was very uniform and had ok blacks with good dark room performance. however that had its own set of QA issues. sad cos sammy are onto a winner with that monitor.
I think the colours benefit every game. Putting any game side by side with a PC monitor versus an OLED and the difference is astounding.
That’s before HDR even enters the equation.
I’ve been saying it for a long time.. lol.
*waits for 77’’ C9 price drop next april*
*To take it for a 89 day spin*
Just kidding. That would be such a great experience. Way to rich for my blood though. Only way I would be able to justify spending that kind of money is having a few properties paid of providing me automated income
I’ll pull the trigger at 3.5k no problem but not any higher.
Installing a projector this week with a draper react screen so if that does the job, I might say goodbye to TVs in general.
Let us know how it goes with the projector
Not even looked at the price of the huge OLED screens so no idea if 3.5K is a good price, but that it is out of my range for sure.
They are 6k at the moment after price drops lol
I think projector will be the way forward tho.. some excellent low input lag ones and they are perfect for 21:9 gaming if you can get a screen size decent enough I think.
Jury is out on this alr screen tho as I haven’t used it yet.
55'' is fine on a desk if you use a custom 21:9 resolution. same physical width as a CRG9 but the FOV of a normal 21:9 monitor.
i like it as its less distortion but a similar feeling of immersion.
well i liked it aslong as i had it and preferred it to the crg9 in everything BUT the lack of a curve which is really neccesary.
Whats it called, it looks ace!
I'm so glad to see people following in my OLED TV Monitor footsteps.
I really am ahead of my time.
In regards to GPU demands, I really don't think people should underestimate or sleep on 1440p/120hz + Nvidia sharpen. Its awesome. I actually use Nvidia Sharpen on my 1080p projector and it does a very valiant job even with a 95 inch image.
btw as a christmas present, not sure if i already shared this info but for anyone with an LG oled monitor TV who doesn't want to get burn in or wants to minimise their chances... heres my mini-guide to it:
Okay so first thing you do when you buy the LG is choose an image preset you like and adjust the OLED light to taste. I went for around 30. Make sure sharpness is either at 10 or 0, again to taste. It makes everything super clear. Also turn of any motion processing. There's also an option for really low input lag on the monitor. I actually didn't need it on, as I felt it was smooth as hell already with the OLED pixel response time. Also set the input to PC on the LG via the devices menu. This lets you do whatever nvidia colour space options you want.
Also set ur oled timer for sleep to 1 or 2 hours. reason for this is if somethinhg goes wrong from ur PC side of things and a static element is there, it will only do 1 or 2 hours worth of damage at most which isn't the end of the world.
I personally do RGB full colour range in the nvidia control panel but you can also mess with YCBR and get some pretty wide colour ranges. This is for SDR and HDR.
Anyway, now onto windows. If you have a non OLED screen handy, I'd do the following changes now.
Might as well hide scroll bar its persistent even in fullscreen mode. Here is the code for userChrome.css . Just copy paste into the file. How to create that file? Let me see if I can find a fix for that as well for you. While I'm finding a way to remove the icons, follow these steps to set up your userChrome.css file:
Type about:config into your address bar. Promise you’ll be careful and proceed. Now type toolkit.legacy into the search bar on the about:config page and hit enter. Look for an option named toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets and click the toggle on the far right side to set this option to true. Type about:support into your address bar. Follow along the left side of your screen until you see a row titled Profile Folder. Directly to the right of this you should see an Open Folder button. Click on this. A window should launch in Windows File Explorer that will navigate to your Firefox profile’s folder. Go ahead and create a new folder inside this profile folder. You can do this by either clicking the new folder icon in the top left or by using the keyboard shortcut, CTRL + Shift + N. Rename this new folder as “chrome” (do not include the quotation marks and ensure all letters are lowercase). Open this new chrome folder. Right click in the empty space inside the folder, click on new, and click on Text Document. Now open this new text file. Click on ‘File’ in the top left and then ‘Save As…’. Towards the bottom of the file save window, change the name of the file to “userChrome.css” (once again, do not include the quotation marks and ensure everything is lowercase except the ‘C’ in ‘Chrome’). Underneath the File Name box, you’ll see a Save as Type box that should currently be set to Text Documents (.txt). Change this to *All Files. Click on Save. Now go back into Firefox and type aboutrofiles into your address bar. Click on the **Restart Normally... button in the top right corner of the page. Now you’re done! Please note that you will need to restart Firefox any time you make changes to the userChrome.css file (such as adding changes to it to remove the icons, once I have those for you). Let me know if you have any trouble going through this at all and I'll do whatever I can to help! When it comes to file and folder names, it is important that you follow the instructions very closely. Even something like the wrong case can prevent it from working properly. This was the hard part. As soon as I have that fix, you'll just copy and paste it into the empty userChrome.css file and then save the changes. Open Firefox Access about:support (or click on Menu > Help > Troubleshooting Information) See the “Profile Folder” there, under “Application Basics”? You can open that path on Explorer/Finder/GFiles, or just click on ‘Open Folder’. Read more about profile folders here if you’re so inclined.
Create your userChrome.css Now that you’re in the profile folder, create a new folder named “chrome” . Just chrome, lowercase.
@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* only needed once */ :-moz-any(#content,#appcontent) browser{ margin-right:-30px!important; overflow-y:scroll; margin-bottom:-30px!important; overflow-x:scroll; } Once you follow my other comment about how to create your userChrome.css file, copy and past the following into it:
.bookmark-item > .toolbarbutton-icon { display: none !important; }
PlacesToolbarItems > .bookmark-item > .toolbarbutton-icon[label]: {
margin-inline-end: 0px !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab .tab-icon-image { display: none !important; } Now just click on File in the top left and click Save. Now restart Firefox. This should remove all of the icons from your bookmarks and tabs.
9. Also remove red line from youtube bar. You need to install a browser addon called "stylish", and then use a different theme for youtube. You can find them here. https://userstyles.org/styles/95280/youtube-custom-colors-video-progress-bar 10. Set screensaver to a black screen and to activate within 1 or 2 minutes. 11. In games, quickly google to see if there are any customisable methods of decrease HUD opacity but honestly don't sweat that too much. IF you're REALLY worried... just switch aspect ratio every couple of hours (its actually REALLY nice to do this.. just gives the game a bit of a change of flavour) 12. Download Nvidia new drivers game ready. alt and F3 in game and activate Nvidia sharpen on all titles. It works REALLY nicely with OLED pixels. 13. If you want to go high fps mode, toggle it on 1440p/120hz. 14. If you use VR, turn off the TV. not worth the risk of not knowing whats gonna pop up when ur in VR.
15. ***optional Download Playnite and use that as a front end for launching games [I didn't do this but I will if I couch game OLED] https://github.com/JosefNemec/Playnite/releases
16. For HDR films and TV shows that you download, use MADVR with MPC. just install MAdVr. Install MPc. Go to options in MPC and choose MADVR to process the video. Usually worth activating HDR prior to watching the video as MadVR will normally not turn it to HDR but instead convert it to SDR (very well and very beautifully btw)
~So to summarise, using my guide above, you now have the ability to:
Also I'll be honest, burn in for a monitor I don't think is as bad, given the screen is so big, you're unlikely to notice it all the time unlike on a TV where you get the entire FOV of the entire screen all the time in focus.
Anyway... heres the mini guide which should make using ur OLED a seemless and beautiful experience. please let me know what you think when you play Gears 5 (use nvidia sharpen) using the settings i suggested.
Okay so first thing you do when you buy the LG is choose an image preset you like and adjust the OLED light to taste. I went for around 30. Make sure sharpness is either at 10 or 0, again to taste. It makes everything super clear. Also turn of any motion processing. There's also an option for really low input lag on the monitor. I actually didn't need it on, as I felt it was smooth as hell already with the OLED pixel response time. Also set the input to PC on the LG via the devices menu. This lets you do whatever nvidia colour space options you want.
Also set ur oled timer for sleep to 1 or 2 hours. reason for this is if somethinhg goes wrong from ur PC side of things and a static element is there, it will only do 1 or 2 hours worth of damage at most which isn't the end of the world.
I personally do RGB full colour range in the nvidia control panel but you can also mess with YCBR and get some pretty wide colour ranges. This is for SDR and HDR.
Anyway, now onto windows. If you have a non OLED screen handy, I'd do the following changes now.
- Black desktop background - this is for safety of the pixels not dying out or any IR but it also is REALLY helpful for if you play games in borderless windowed mode the desktop acts as letterboxes so its really really awesome for immersion.
- Activate windows dark theme and make your accent colour the darkest it will let you (it doesnt allow u to do pure black but dont worry)
- Set windows taskbar to auto hide
- Download Translucent TB https://github.com/TranslucentTB/TranslucentTB This lets you get the taskbar to be completley black when it auto hides aslong as you make it 100% transparent
- Download this HDR switcher and pin it to your task bar https://github.com/bradgearon/hdr-switch Whenever you want to use HDR, click on this. When close the program. Makes toggling HDR mode REALLY easy in windows and because you have a beautiful OLED you'll want to be going HDR whenever possible
- Download this hotkey resolution changer. It minimises to taskbar and lets you change resolutions at will. I usually have 3840x2160, 3840x1600 (21:10...ish), 3840x1400 (21:9), 3840x1080 (32:9) and 1440p/120hz https://funk.eu/hrc/ I actually got in the habit of just switching aspect ratios out of boredom sometimes. Do it on a game by game basis dependant on what FOV you want and what FPS you want. It will also help mitigate burn in hugely as everything is in a different place at some point in time. The 32:9 picture is literally the same height and width as a CRG/CHG90 monitor. Don't ask me how but it looked sharper than my CRG9 whilst using less pixels and getting better FPS.
- For chrome, download adblock and any other adblocker and block static elements on sites by right clicking and going to the adblocker. Troublesome ones will be the reddit icon, the youtube icon. Also download Tab modifier and replace any red tab icons with the a black star or w/e u want. Also activate dark mode.
- Ideally though, switch to Firefox because Firefox's fulll screen mode is amazing whilst chromes doesnt allow you to easily see the taskbar when you want.
Might as well hide scroll bar its persistent even in fullscreen mode. Here is the code for userChrome.css . Just copy paste into the file. How to create that file? Let me see if I can find a fix for that as well for you. While I'm finding a way to remove the icons, follow these steps to set up your userChrome.css file:
Type about:config into your address bar. Promise you’ll be careful and proceed. Now type toolkit.legacy into the search bar on the about:config page and hit enter. Look for an option named toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets and click the toggle on the far right side to set this option to true. Type about:support into your address bar. Follow along the left side of your screen until you see a row titled Profile Folder. Directly to the right of this you should see an Open Folder button. Click on this. A window should launch in Windows File Explorer that will navigate to your Firefox profile’s folder. Go ahead and create a new folder inside this profile folder. You can do this by either clicking the new folder icon in the top left or by using the keyboard shortcut, CTRL + Shift + N. Rename this new folder as “chrome” (do not include the quotation marks and ensure all letters are lowercase). Open this new chrome folder. Right click in the empty space inside the folder, click on new, and click on Text Document. Now open this new text file. Click on ‘File’ in the top left and then ‘Save As…’. Towards the bottom of the file save window, change the name of the file to “userChrome.css” (once again, do not include the quotation marks and ensure everything is lowercase except the ‘C’ in ‘Chrome’). Underneath the File Name box, you’ll see a Save as Type box that should currently be set to Text Documents (.txt). Change this to *All Files. Click on Save. Now go back into Firefox and type about
rofiles into your address bar. Click on the **Restart Normally... button in the top right corner of the page. Now you’re done! Please note that you will need to restart Firefox any time you make changes to the userChrome.css file (such as adding changes to it to remove the icons, once I have those for you). Let me know if you have any trouble going through this at all and I'll do whatever I can to help! When it comes to file and folder names, it is important that you follow the instructions very closely. Even something like the wrong case can prevent it from working properly. This was the hard part. As soon as I have that fix, you'll just copy and paste it into the empty userChrome.css file and then save the changes. Open Firefox Access about:support (or click on Menu > Help > Troubleshooting Information) See the “Profile Folder” there, under “Application Basics”? You can open that path on Explorer/Finder/GFiles, or just click on ‘Open Folder’. Read more about profile folders here if you’re so inclined.Create your userChrome.css Now that you’re in the profile folder, create a new folder named “chrome” . Just chrome, lowercase.
@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* only needed once */ :-moz-any(#content,#appcontent) browser{ margin-right:-30px!important; overflow-y:scroll; margin-bottom:-30px!important; overflow-x:scroll; } Once you follow my other comment about how to create your userChrome.css file, copy and past the following into it:
.bookmark-item > .toolbarbutton-icon { display: none !important; }
PlacesToolbarItems > .bookmark-item > .toolbarbutton-icon[label]: {
margin-inline-end: 0px !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab .tab-icon-image { display: none !important; } Now just click on File in the top left and click Save. Now restart Firefox. This should remove all of the icons from your bookmarks and tabs.
9. Also remove red line from youtube bar. You need to install a browser addon called "stylish", and then use a different theme for youtube. You can find them here. https://userstyles.org/styles/95280/youtube-custom-colors-video-progress-bar 10. Set screensaver to a black screen and to activate within 1 or 2 minutes. 11. In games, quickly google to see if there are any customisable methods of decrease HUD opacity but honestly don't sweat that too much. IF you're REALLY worried... just switch aspect ratio every couple of hours (its actually REALLY nice to do this.. just gives the game a bit of a change of flavour) 12. Download Nvidia new drivers game ready. alt and F3 in game and activate Nvidia sharpen on all titles. It works REALLY nicely with OLED pixels. 13. If you want to go high fps mode, toggle it on 1440p/120hz. 14. If you use VR, turn off the TV. not worth the risk of not knowing whats gonna pop up when ur in VR.
15. ***optional Download Playnite and use that as a front end for launching games [I didn't do this but I will if I couch game OLED] https://github.com/JosefNemec/Playnite/releases
16. For HDR films and TV shows that you download, use MADVR with MPC. just install MAdVr. Install MPc. Go to options in MPC and choose MADVR to process the video. Usually worth activating HDR prior to watching the video as MadVR will normally not turn it to HDR but instead convert it to SDR (very well and very beautifully btw)
~So to summarise, using my guide above, you now have the ability to:
- Seemlessly change resolution at will for different FOV prior to launching games. Also helps mitigate burn in a lot cos elements shift to other sides.,
- Launch games in either borderless or full screen mode and still have deep black bars on the top
- Web browse safely using firefox full screen or slightlu more risky using chrome (F11 to full screen but the full screen is dodgey)
- Turn on and off HDR at the click of a button the taskbar
- Have a nice sharp accurate image via LG TV settings
- Have a safe to use taskbar which won't burn in ur screen with a faint line
- Optional front ends for games/films
- Have everything dark so even if you do have static elements, risk is low
Also I'll be honest, burn in for a monitor I don't think is as bad, given the screen is so big, you're unlikely to notice it all the time unlike on a TV where you get the entire FOV of the entire screen all the time in focus.
Anyway... heres the mini guide which should make using ur OLED a seemless and beautiful experience. please let me know what you think when you play Gears 5 (use nvidia sharpen) using the settings i suggested.
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Couldn’t find this anywhere,. Does it have adjustable legs? Anyone help me out?Finally managed to finished my setup today
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