Lightroom and Photoshop subscription now available to all

Just signed up. Does this mean I can still use LR5 by the end of my contract after 12 month even if I decide not to renew photoshop? It seems like the installation of LR5 does not require a login in status.
 
I don't understand the question. You will have to renew both LR5 + PS together. I would not expect either to work if you don't renew or cancel the subscription, but could be wrong!
 
I was just in the process of upgrading to Elements 12 to get RAW support for a new camera so I'll subscribe to this for a year & see how it goes. If Adobe take the **** with prices next year I'll just revert to my copies of PSE 11 / LR4 :)
 
I was just in the process of upgrading to Elements 12 to get RAW support for a new camera so I'll subscribe to this for a year & see how it goes. If Adobe take the **** with prices next year I'll just revert to my copies of PSE 11 / LR4 :)
Dunno if it'll sway you but the rain forest shop has Elements 12 for only £35 at the moment.
 
My immediate thought would be that cancelling ends the subscription, and as that's all you have the software via, you lose it too. Interesting if you can stop subscribing, but remain on that version and only forgo further updates.

That was my though, there seems to be a lot of people suggesting the opposite however, which is why i asked.
 
Just subscribed, but how exactly do you launch it?

Rk1N9n5.png

Click on the name of the program takes me to the webpage to download it. Click on Download takes me back to the menu on the right.

It just goes around in circles except launching anything.
 
Last edited:
I'm very tempted by this, but can't quite decide. I have no real issue with LR5, as is, and don't really see the major advantages of PSCC over PSCS6 (which I already have)

kd
 
I'm certainly not paying to rent software in any case, that's always a raw deal no matter how you look at it.

All of Adobe's subscription agreements are cheaper than buying a suite and then buying an upgrade every two years.

'Owning' software (which isn't really possible) only makes sense if you want to buy a Photoshop license and stick with the same version for 6 years, which only really works if you don't need to collaborate with people.
 
All of Adobe's subscription agreements are cheaper than buying a suite and then buying an upgrade every two years.

'Owning' software (which isn't really possible) only makes sense if you want to buy a Photoshop license and stick with the same version for 6 years, which only really works if you don't need to collaborate with people.

For now... but you're missing the point, it's not about the amount of money it's the licence agreement.

I, and I imagine most people doing photography as a hobby don't collaborate so that's moot. I certainly don't upgrade software every two years in any case.
 
For now... but you're missing the point, it's not about the amount of money it's the licence agreement.

I, and I imagine most people doing photography as a hobby don't collaborate so that's moot. I certainly don't upgrade software every two years in any case.

It's not a simple case of owning vs. renting though, you only ever purchased a license to use the software previously, the only difference with a subscription is that the license now expires.

So it doesn't suit how you do things, that's fine. It's not always a raw deal though.
 
It's not a simple case of owning vs. renting though, you only ever purchased a license to use the software previously, the only difference with a subscription is that the license now expires.

So it doesn't suit how you do things, that's fine. It's not always a raw deal though.

To be fair to Adobe, This is the first time I've ever paid for any of their software. As its now affordable.

I've got no issues with this at all.. Maybe if/when it doubles in price next year my view may change.
 
It's not just you, the whole CC package is ~£26+VAT per month to businesses if paid yearly, which compares massively favourably when compared to what Master Collection used to come in at. It's enabled a small business I know to finally get legit with their licensing since it's not a huge up-front cost any more, and if work dries up they just stop renewing the subscription.
 
It's not a simple case of owning vs. renting though, you only ever purchased a license to use the software previously, the only difference with a subscription is that the license now expires.

So it doesn't suit how you do things, that's fine. It's not always a raw deal though.

The problem is once you are subscribed they have you by the balls because they can do whatever they want regarding the pricing or licence terms and if you don't like it your licence is revoked. They offer a nice deal initially to get everyone subscribed and then massively bump up the price, classic strategy.

If they offered a normal licence that doesn't expire in addition to the subscription that would be fine, but the fact they aren't offering that suggests nefarious intentions to me.
 
The problem is once you are subscribed they have you by the balls because they can do whatever they want regarding the pricing or licence terms and if you don't like it your licence is revoked. They offer a nice deal initially to get everyone subscribed and then massively bump up the price, classic strategy.

If they offered a normal licence that doesn't expire in addition to the subscription that would be fine, but the fact they aren't offering that suggests nefarious intentions to me.

Of course.

Or you can stump up £600 for a software licence, which they release a new one every year.

LR is £100 a copy.

That's £700 previously, where as now it is £100 thereabouts in subscription, the cost of subscription would need to be £60 per month to cost the same as before. Unless of course you plan to run that single licence for about 5 years without upgrading.

But all this second guessing their attention is pointless, this is the reality of it. This is their business model now. You either use:

1 - CS6 (or whatever you had before)
2 - go CC
3 - look elsewhere

I rather get CC, if the price hikes up to ridiculous level then look elsewhere. What is the point of worrying about something that may or may not happen for at least a year? or even 5 years? Even at £20 a month sub I think it is about the right price so for like £8 it really is a no brainer. To worry about they might have you by the balls, well, you can worry about at lot of things and at the end of the day, no one forces you to continue with the sub if and when they charges £1,000,000 a month. You simply say no, take your money elsewhere. To say no at £8 a month and worry about later is moot, no point.
 
Last edited:
The problem is once you are subscribed they have you by the balls because they can do whatever they want regarding the pricing or licence terms and if you don't like it your licence is revoked. They offer a nice deal initially to get everyone subscribed and then massively bump up the price, classic strategy.

If they offered a normal licence that doesn't expire in addition to the subscription that would be fine, but the fact they aren't offering that suggests nefarious intentions to me.

They can but now their revenue is directly linked to how many people carry on supporting their products - any quarterly decline is due to people actively choosing not to buy their product any more as opposed to not buying an upgrade. If they push people too far then anyone wishing to compete in that space knows exactly how much they can charge to steal thousands of customers away. Yes there will always be some people who begrudgingly pay any price, but I don't think Adobe are stupid enough to think that people are loyal to the products as opposed to the functions that the products offer.

I know we'll never get official figures on it but I'd bet money that CC has saved people money who kept on the latest versions of Master Collection, and convinced people who used to pirate it to go legit.
 
Last edited:
I dont see the point when I can get elements and LR for less than that per upgrade. Everyones different but there's nothing that's in CS that I require that isn't in elements. I bet there isn't for 99.9% of photographers either, yet for some reason they feel they have to have the full package.
 
Back
Top Bottom