we need an inquiry into the inquiry.... ill head it up for only $$$$$$$$
Listening to the covid inquiry
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Ye ye ye, I'll join the legal team with you, I know nothing about law etc, so should fit in nicely.
Listening to vivid hearing is like the biggest waste of anyone’s life.
We all know what BoJo & Co thought and did. No one in the country would think BoJo cared about people’s lives at the time. Ok maybe Nadine Dorries and she probably thought BoJo only cared about her…
Expending emotional capital on BoJo is another serious waste of one’s life.
If the end conclusion isn’t such that we can through BoJo into a glass box and let loose Ebola, small pox and other nasties on him then it is fundamentally not useful.
We all know what BoJo & Co thought and did. No one in the country would think BoJo cared about people’s lives at the time. Ok maybe Nadine Dorries and she probably thought BoJo only cared about her…
Expending emotional capital on BoJo is another serious waste of one’s life.
If the end conclusion isn’t such that we can through BoJo into a glass box and let loose Ebola, small pox and other nasties on him then it is fundamentally not useful.
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Soldato
Inquiries are pointless. Nothing will be achieved other than a bit of mud slinging and some forced apologies.
Essentially lots of noise for a few weeks then everyone forgets all about it.
The inquiries are seen as a gold rush by lawyers and I can see why.
Essentially lots of noise for a few weeks then everyone forgets all about it.
The inquiries are seen as a gold rush by lawyers and I can see why.
Soldato
Some of these people should probably be in prison for what they did during the pandemic, but it will never happen.
Soldato
When will people learn that memory and history in the context of say, a country or a government is not bounded by their individual want to “be bothered about it” 
As I’ve heard said before….”it’s not all about you”
As I’ve heard said before….”it’s not all about you”
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Amongst other things!
Not really. It’s reliable but poorly-paid work for lawyers. Barristers will be lucky to be paid half their commercial rate.
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Enjoying the hypocrisy of those that cast Cummings as an evil liar when in No. 10 but are now lapping up everything he says as gospel with his revisionist white saviour hero nonsense supposedly single handedly battling at the heart of government to save everyones lives.. lol
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Wow. The complete lack of integrity...
"yes I knew that Bojo was not suitable for office. Yes, I was instrumental in putting him there. Yes, I knew I didn't belong in government"
Yet you flipping do it anyway.
Nauseous.
"yes I knew that Bojo was not suitable for office. Yes, I was instrumental in putting him there. Yes, I knew I didn't belong in government"
Yet you flipping do it anyway.
Nauseous.
Soldato
If Matt Hancock's attitude on celebrity SAS is anything to go by they'll always think they did nothing wrong and anybody who says otherwise is just a big meany.
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Not related to the Covid Inquiry or Covid pandemic, this has been the direction of travel for a while. There has been a long increasing term trend of loss of privacy and leaks in Governments of all flavours for the last 40 years. I've felt for years that ministers don't want to open an honest discussions in any forum where it will be minuted. Because the likelihood of leaks out of context makes blue sky thinking politically dangerous. It's very difficult to have competition of ideas without some degree of privacy. I think the rules on this need to be reviewed and improved but the general culture of secrecy/privacy has died. Ministers badly break it and they have thus encouraged civil servants and other employees to act as badly. The number of videos and photos coming out of No10 and other departments just shouldn't happen it's corrosive to good Government no matter what your political hue.
Listening yesterday I heard the minutes for the meetings were all scripted in advance, so even the official documentation record cannot be trusted.
They talk about collective responsibility, but there is no government responsibility to the people as time after time they get off scot-free when the media cycle moves on. The electorate should have a public body setup to hold members of parliament to account with the ability to personally fine these individuals or collectively, and for particularly severe offences also impose jail terms.
We have media organisations occasionally running fact checking exercises, this should be standard with proper fines and other punishments for those caught actively trying to deceive the public. Perhaps government decisions should be scrutinised by a team of experts with their advice published alongside the government proposal, so the electorate could objectively decide whether it is good for the country or not.
They talk about collective responsibility, but there is no government responsibility to the people as time after time they get off scot-free when the media cycle moves on. The electorate should have a public body setup to hold members of parliament to account with the ability to personally fine these individuals or collectively, and for particularly severe offences also impose jail terms.
We have media organisations occasionally running fact checking exercises, this should be standard with proper fines and other punishments for those caught actively trying to deceive the public. Perhaps government decisions should be scrutinised by a team of experts with their advice published alongside the government proposal, so the electorate could objectively decide whether it is good for the country or not.
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caught excerpts of what she said - but her responsibility seemed very unclear, a bystander
Presumably final report could say misconduct in office for civil servants or MP's which would incur some follow up investigation by HP & sanctions.
(maybe Liz Truss has a future career on SAS or celebrity, too)
Presumably final report could say misconduct in office for civil servants or MP's which would incur some follow up investigation by HP & sanctions.
(maybe Liz Truss has a future career on SAS or celebrity, too)
Thats not very surprising really - like a lot of old buildings it isnt fit for purpose during a pandemic lockdown . I am sure there were many many business premises across the country where covid rules were broken on a daily basis. Yes its no10 so - blah blah blah - but the civil servants are just normal people doing a job like the rest of us.
Out in the real world I would bet that the vast majority didnt follow the rules as laid down. All that "bubble" nonsense for a start was a green light for many to meet whoever they wanted seemingly.
Soldato
You would lose your bet.
Apparently even the smallest changes such as actually having hand sanitiser between the cabinet office and the meeting rooms took weeks to implement. It's almost as if they thought it was a disease for poor people or something, like Politicians couldn't get it.