Soldato
They would, he's a loveable oaf with that hair, they love him. Morals, or competence? Ain't nobody got time for that.
Listening to the covid inquiry
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Soldato
Seek high office in this country (or any) half the people will dislike you and a small percentage will hate you. It goes with the job. Add in Brexit, a pandemic and inflation, he has not done too badly on the metric.
It is all so easy in hindsight.
It is all so easy in hindsight.
Yup, case in point. There's no point in stating the obvious things you are simply (objectively) wrong about.
He's just a cheaky chappy! He means well. Loveable rogue! Did the best he could. They're all the same.
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Commissario
He's done terribly.
By his own admission IIRC he didn't bother attending the early meetings about covid, and he's basically shown that he didn't care about anyone getting it because they were either "old enough anyway" or "vulnerable" and he doesn't seem to have grasped even now what the medics were telling him way back then about how covid doesn't just kill, and certainly doesn't just affect the elderly.
And given Brexit was something he wholeheartedly supported he gets zero leeway for that.
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Soldato
Hindsight is not the same as not listening at the time.
I simply don’t see the point of this Covid enquiry at all? Millions of people already know Boris Johnston is without doubt the most incompetent buffoon that ever represented the Conservative Party And no matter what questions are thrown at him all he has to do is shrug his shoulders and repeatedly say he did what he thought was best based on information he received at the time from his aids and experts.
Soldato
Take eat out to help out. Every hotelier, publicans, restaraunteurs and the majority of the younger poulation were ecstatic at the time. Footfall through the hospitality sector and everyone who wished could go get sozzled as a rat. In hindsight it was not a particularly brilliant idea and people did catch covid and not a few died. However at the time it was welcomed.
Working from home suddenly it was a thing and the government supported it paying people to stay at home even. Was it a bad idea? The main people not happy at the time were a few self employed cooking their taxable incomes who got little.
There was a lot not right but there was a lot which was right. I am not saying it could not have been done better but looking from this end of the glass not the other.
Working from home suddenly it was a thing and the government supported it paying people to stay at home even. Was it a bad idea? The main people not happy at the time were a few self employed cooking their taxable incomes who got little.
There was a lot not right but there was a lot which was right. I am not saying it could not have been done better but looking from this end of the glass not the other.
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He was a remainer before he realised being a brexiteer was his ticket to number 10. Shows what sort of person he is.
Commissario
Even I, as a non medical person with zero call upon countless medical experts could tell that eat out to help out the virus was a bad thing.
I remember sitting in disbelief when it was announced and saying to my father that it was going to cause havoc and deaths, and having to explain to my sister that no we were not taking our oap father out for a nice meal to celebrate (he was pretty adamant about not doing it, as he could see the same issue).
It's such a basic thing that it didn't require any medical knowledge to say that an airborne/droplet born virus that is exponentially more likely to cause an infection the longer you are in proximity to more people was going to find the conditions at a restaurant etc ideal, especially given how poor ventilation is in most pubs and eateries.
Man of Honour
I'm not sticking up for any Politician Scumbag but yes he was a Remainer but he said that is what the public voted for so he would see it through.
Soldato
I agree but it was placating a sizeable section of the economy with some business after a lengthy closure, longer than the shops for example.
They did take the mickey with social distancing or the lack of though and the numbers allowed.
Also it released a certain tension amongst the young and less vulnerable who were socialising anyway but hidden.
There is no easy answer. If you go too heavy people will disobey but keeping a majority compliant and avoiding too much mixing is the balance they were trying for I believe.
Man of Honour
You forget that if you sat down Covid couldn't find you but if you stood up you had to wear a mask
Well done you.
Soldato
The main areas of outrage in this enquiry are the reactions to supposedly private conversations between cabinet members and high level officials at the time.
These conversations need to remain private IMO. If not, the logical conclusion is that every waking moment needs to be documented and pored over, resulting in an environment where people can't speak freely and sound out ideas for fear of retribution. Even ideas initially perceived as bad ideas need to be raised and discussed, if only to examine and eliminate them.
These conversations need to remain private IMO. If not, the logical conclusion is that every waking moment needs to be documented and pored over, resulting in an environment where people can't speak freely and sound out ideas for fear of retribution. Even ideas initially perceived as bad ideas need to be raised and discussed, if only to examine and eliminate them.
Going on what he said he only took it seriously once he caught it and spent time on a COVID ward with people in their 30-40's, so I'm not even sure I'd gift him with the ability of hindsight.
From what i can tell he basically thought it was a big fat nothing burger until it almost killed him and he saw with his own two eyes that it was effecting people half his age and they weren't putting on a show, that it really was real. But of course by that time it was already too late because his usual laissez faire attitude allowed it to reach the stage of needing to lock everything down.
Soldato
Describing Boris as a remainer is frankly ridiculous given he was one of the leading faces of the leave campaign. He hitched his horse to that wagon and ran with it out of personal ambition and greed and damn the consequences. A statement that pretty much sums up his entire career to date. His lack of leadership, laziness and sheer inability to make decisions cost a huge number of lives and worsened the economic impact of COVID he basically got nothing right except an early punt on the AZ vaccine.
Soldato
I don’t think anyone has a problem with bad ideas it’s the callous, stupid and down right offensive that people object to! These messages definitely shouldn’t remain private government business should and always has been a matter of public record. The use of what’s app should be banned and the penalties for ‘loosing’ messages should be jail time.
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