I wonder how much you said it would take to buy Alonso and Mascherano the year before they declared themselves unhappy? How much do you think Torres will be sold for if he demands a transfer?
I said we should look to get £20-25m for Alonso the summer that he left for £30-35m and the summer before Masch left (not sure if I said it) but I'd have hoped for £35m. This summer though I said we should look to get ~£30m for him however I also said his situation was complicated by the fact that had we not sold him this summer he'd have left for considerably less due to the time left on his contract. And we got £20-24m depending on clauses.
As for Torres; I've said many times before, the only realistic club I can see him joining in the short-term is City in which case we'll hopefully take them to the cleaners. Obviously his form this season will effect his fee but I'd be shocked at anything under £45m.
edit: City are rumoured to have offered £60m+ for last summer.
Spurs paid £12.5m up front with add ons up to £16m, add ons clauses that I cannot see being met due to his No.4 status in the team. He cost spurs £12.5m.
No you paid an initial fee of ~£12m with a further ~£4m guaranteed (some said that £4m was linked to your survival) plus further 'optimistic add-ons', which reportedly could have made Liverpool a profit on the deal.
That's the thing though, you can't go out and sign 3 or 4 top players just like that, even with a £40m kitty. Unless the manager finds bargains, an established top class domestic player will cost £15m easy. And even if you throw big money around £20m there is no guarantee that the player will work (Aquilani).
Why can't you go out and buy 3 or 4 ~£15m players just like that? Didn't Spurs sign Palacios, Keane and Defoe in the January window which is generally very quiet?
Your spine is crumbling, with Alonso and Mascherano in the middle you were amazing, now you are really stuggling to both create and boss games.
I agree, however it's not impossible to turn around. Look at Spurs' spine from 3 years ago compared to now.
Where did I say Spurs will earn £50m from the CL?
FYI I think Spurs will make about £30m from the CL TV rights and bonuses, plus £5m from the additional shirt sponsorship deal.
Sorry, it was a thow away comment because of the nonsense you came out with in the other thread.
Possibly, but if a top player comes available I don't doubt Man City will throw another £200,000 a week contract at a player or three.
We're not going to be competing with City for signing the few star players that will become available.
Yeah, £70m here, £75m there, £50m there - pocket change.
Who exactly spent £75m or even £50m this summer?
Real's spending cut back dramatically, Barca signed a couple of expensive players but had to sell to fund that and even Inter were selling players this summer. Other than City, it was only really Milan that spent a significant amount.
You have just as much idea as Roy Hodgson, everyone watches the same players. I do think we have hit a strange time in transfers, I think the easy credit of previous years has dried up and with it the amounts we've been seeing will go down.
I can watch as much as I like. I can't pick up the phone and make an enquiry for a player though. Your guess is as good as mine as to who would be available and how much they'd cost.
That's the thing though, Defoe and Crouch were both absolute bargains. If you were buying players like that a few months ago, you'd be paying far more due to the inflated nature of the market.
I'm not sure I'd agree with that. Defoe cost you how much more than you sold him for? Bargain?
And you paid a similar amount for Crouch than what Pompey paid us 18 months previous. Taking into account his age, he's fee was a fair reflection of his value.
Any top player Liverpool FC want will get snapped up by someone in the Champions League, so they are left with holding on to their top players and bringing in enough quality to get them back there this summer or possibly face the chances of them becoming a top 4 force decline remarkably.
Again using Spurs as an comparrison; how did you manage to sign all the players that you did to make it into the CL? After all any player you wanted joined a CL side, right?
And why were Spurs condemned with UEFA cup football? Because the top 4 has been largely a closed shop of elite clubs in recent history, mainly due to Champions League revenue.
You missed the point. Spurs weren't condemned, they made it into the CL. But if revenue is your only reasoning then it's not likely to apply to Liverpool because even without CL football we're able to compete with 2-3 of the 5 sides competing.
Doe you think one of Arsenal, Manchester Utd and Chelsea are going to drop out of the four; or do you think you can compete against Man City and Spurs for 4th?
In the short-term Arsenal are the most vulnerable of those 3 and in the longer term who knows what the situation will be at Utd. Competing with City in the longer term is going to be very difficult but I'm more than confident that we'll be able to challenge and surpass you. Not this season but within a couple of seasons.
Anyway, lets not keep going around in circles. What you're coming out with is hysterical nonsense that you're likely to read in the Daily Mail or S*n.
