London pollution & ULEZ

About as hypocritical as anything can be.

Ulez - Ultra Low Emission Zone . But don’t worry can pay to come in and pollute London.

Footfall in London is through the floor as it is . Canary Wharf has been and still is a Ghost town since covid and anyone now living in the suburbs definitely won’t be coming into the zone if they have a non compliant car. Hello more traffic on the M25 .

Not saying this shouldn’t have happened however it should have have been rolled in over a 10 year period - say any Euro 5 cars older than 10 years this year and 9 years the next . You can bet your life this will change again in 5 years time to being dependent on you having a 100% EV vehicle .

Anyone in cities outside of London who thinks it won’t effect them think again , it going to come to most city centres now .

Makes my blood boil all you do good environmental lentil eating lefties or just top oil retards . If you haven’t worked out that the human race is destined for self destruction ( famine , disease or more likely nuked ) before we are wiped out by any environmental issues then your as stupid as the clothes you lot wear.

Happy weekend everyone.
 
That's the standard warranty period provided by many manufacturers. That doesn't mean they are going to suddenly fail after that point. How long is the usual warranty on an ICE engine? Ignoring some of the newer marques like Kia/Hyundai and MG, isn't it 3 years? And yet, there are plenty of cars much older than that on the road still going strong. How very strange. :rolleyes:



Absolutely true, they are more polluting to produce than ICE cars, and it takes almost 15-20k* miles to break even! Wait, that's only 2-3 years at the UK average of 7,400 - anything after that point is a net benefit.



You will also find Teslas and other EVs older than that on the original battery, and ICE cars which have had their engine replaced after a couple of years, I'm not sure what point you think you are trying to make?

You're also conveniently ignoring the fact that unless the battery has actually failed catastrophically, the usual "failure" mode of an EV battery is capacity reduced beyond what is deemed feasible for the car (usually around 70%), and they still have a useful life as energy storage outside of vehicle use. Tell me, what is the useful purpose of a trashed engine after it has been replaced?





* obviously dependent on how the electricity is generated.

Engines are mostly metal, so they get melted down and recycled almost entirely. Metals can be reused over and over. Only something like 5% of dead battery contents are recycled currently, something they don't like to mention.

Ah so if you're rich and run an old Rolls or something similar that stinks up the place, you can happily stick two fingers up at the plebs walking to work in the rain on the way to your private Mayfair club?
What a surprise.

Tax free, MOT and ULez exempt. The rule makers like to leave in loopholes for themselves. A bit like the tax system if you have a few million.
 
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Ah so if you're rich and run an old Rolls or something similar that stinks up the place, you can happily stick two fingers up at the plebs walking to work in the rain on the way to your private Mayfair club?
What a surprise.
Yes, that's the idea.
 
Engines are mostly metal, so they get melted down and recycled almost entirely. Metals can be reused over and over. Only something like 5% of dead battery contents are recycled currently, something they don't like to mention.
Modern cars are plastic, not like classic cars.
 
Check see if it’s compliant, also you can ask and get an extension so you don’t need to pay for a number of years but you need to be a blue badge holder and something else I think.
My parents won‘t need to pay it until 2027 I believe, by then they should hopefully have a compliant car.

Also be careful stepping out the door in Romford, and accidentally dropping litter, you will have a gang of enforcement officers hiding around the corner and handing you a nice £150 fine.
More worried about getting stabbed at a kebab shop tbh :p
 
So the ULEZ ruling in khanMings favour just means he has the power to do it - and is not a ratification that it is the most useful thing to do to reduce pollution,

to remind folks



still seems the whole Labour uxbridge loss is being attributed to that as opposed to people don't think much of Kiers other policies - no youguv survey to try and understand the truth ?
I can understand labour liking that narrative, and suppose the Cons don't disagree because the publics green vote intention is unclear.
TDLR?
 
To be honest I think encouraging people back into the office has been a massive wasted opportunity in terms of reducing congestion and pollution. An efficient trip is good but no trip is better for those things than one not taken at all.
IF you can work from home then you should not need to make a pointless travel to a workplace, regardless if its using public transport or driving
 
The modern English idea of a rebellion is to moan on social media and allow news/media bodies to do stories on how bad something is, without actually doing anything about it.
 
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