London pollution & ULEZ

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

Just "part and parcel of living in a big city", right?


Nah not really, I am making it up for funsies ofc

Sadiq Khan never said terrorism was part and parcel of living in a big city which is presumably what you are referencing. I can tell when people say this that they are quite likely thick.

 

[XeNoN89]

Lived here forever and never even heard someone talk about having black lines or dirt and dust in their nose. I’m on the undergeound regularly every week as well.

I used to have black dust in my nose pretty much every day after getting the tube. Some lines are worse than others

 

[VincentHanna]

Sadiq Khan never said terrorism was part and parcel of living in a big city which is presumably what you are referencing. I can tell when people say this that they are quite likely thick.

People love to strip context away from what people said, to misrepresent their positions.

 

[Smeghead]

Do you work for the London tourism board or something OP? I didn't even realise there was anyone who cared massively or it was a topic of hot contention of late to warrant a random thread "proving" otherwise, and the refuting of people's personal experiences is a bit weird. Like, sure, there's some evidence to say it's good or improved or whatever. Does that mean in literally 100% of cases London has amazing air quality? Hardly.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

OP is trying to attack Sadiq Khan for no apparent reason.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

People love to strip context away from what people said, to misrepresent their positions.

It is one of the worst things about the Internet, it makes it so god-damn easy.

 

[alexakasloth]

I really only found the underground the 'filthy' part, as others have said there have been occasions when I have black stuff coming out when blowing my nose after using the underground.
But above ground, wombling free, the air is fairly quality.

 

[Nasher]

I can definitely feel the difference in the air quality whenever I visit, it also always has a slight smell to it.

Going back home where it's far more rural feels easier to breath, like there is more oxygen in the air.

It's a lot better than some other cities though. The air isn't 50% fecies like India.

 

[jonneymendoza]

OP is trying to attack Sadiq Khan for no apparent reason.

na bro

 

[Hades]

Because of policies like the congestion charge.

Well it doesn't work very well then because London is more congested than ever. What is more likely to have had an effect is the changing EURO specifications making cars cleaner.

The congestion charge and ULEZ are just money grabbing tax schemes on motorists who have no choice but to still drive to work.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

The reason the air quality has improved is because of policies to make it so less people drive, as Khan is trying to do right now. When most people that live in London don't need nor want cars why should we let people die?

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

Well it doesn't work very well then because London is more congested than ever. What is more likely to have had an effect is the changing EURO specifications making cars cleaner.

The congestion charge and ULEZ are just money grabbing tax schemes on motorists who have no choice but to still drive to work.

There have been plenty of studies that have proven a consistent link between the congestion charge and pollution.

Euro specs, that's great we've left the EU.

 

[jonneymendoza]

The reason the air quality has improved is because of policies to make it so less people drive, as Khan is trying to do right now. When most people that live in London don't need nor want cars why should we let people die?

yet in vilages and small town everyone including there cat and dogs drives everywhere there

 

[bloodiedathame]

I used to ride motorcycles around London 15 years ago. Every day I had black bogies and a dirty face where my skin was exposed to the air under the visor.

 

[Zefan]

Sadiq Khan never said terrorism was part and parcel of living in a big city which is presumably what you are referencing. I can tell when people say this that they are quite likely thick.

I'm referencing the thing he actually said, which was in response to questioning about the incident that "you've got to be prepared for these things", which fed in to the the thing I actually take issue with, which was his general attitude around the incident.

Thanks for the insult though bro, I can see you chose smooth talker at character creation, and chose to assign your SPECIAL points in perception and charisma. I'd hold fire on spending any more on the speech skill, you wouldn't want to get OP and ruin your playthrough.

 

[Hades]

There have been plenty of studies that have proven a consistent link between the congestion charge and pollution.

Euro specs, that's great we've left the EU.

Are you saying our cars (most of which are manufactured abroad and for the EU market) will suddenly diverge from EURO standards? Because I'm highly confident they won't.

 

[dlockers]

The air quality in London is better now than it has been since pretty much the start of the Industrial Revolution. Places like Delhi and Beijing though, yikes!

Beijing is crystal clear. Almost every vehicle is electric and all scooters are 100% electric. I was there 2 weeks ago.

 

[alexakasloth]

Well it doesn't work very well then because London is more congested than ever. What is more likely to have had an effect is the changing EURO specifications making cars cleaner.

The congestion charge and ULEZ are just money grabbing tax schemes on motorists who have no choice but to still drive to work.

I really hope they do not expand the ULEZ, two companies I visit for sourcing stock regularly are within the proposed boundaries. I'm just starting out in my business (well, a year) so it's not going to cripple it but makes justifying visiting a lot harder.

 

[Rroff]

I can definitely feel the difference in the air quality whenever I visit, it also always has a slight smell to it.

Going back home where it's far more rural feels easier to breath, like there is more oxygen in the air.

It's a lot better than some other cities though. The air isn't 50% fecies like India.

It was crazy in that respect just after the peak of the first lockdown - the air quality around here and how easy it was to breath was remarkably different after just a few weeks of vastly reduced traffic. Sadly it has quickly resumed to what it used to be like.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

I'll believe some random dude posting denial videos on YT over proper studies for sure, yep I certainly will.