Looking for a PC build please

Geordie1881 said:
Ok, how does this look? any stupidity on my part?

Couple of challenges:
GPU is out of stock
Motherboard is pre-order

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,474.77 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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B360 and H370 Chipset is only good with NON K intel chips! just as a heads up !
you'll be looking at Z Chipset to take advantage of K chips ability to overclock- though that cooler will limit its ability or temp

Ultra board comes with free CD Key for FAR CRY 5! if not cheaper option

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...cket-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-560-gi.html

was also cheaper £20 GTX 1070 but only had 2 year warranty from Palit

cheaper CLC(-close loop circuit) not AIO (- all in one) like one quoted

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cooler-master-masterliquid-lite-240-aio-cpu-cooler-hs-07l-cm.html


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,656.87 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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Thanks again, so if I went for the B360M, i5-8400 and GTX 1060 I could knock £300 off? Not sure that's the way I want to go, but not sure what OCUK will charge to build yet

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,343.87 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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Geordie1881 said:
Thanks again, so if I went for the B360M, i5-8400 and GTX 1060 I could knock £300 off? Not sure that's the way I want to go, but not sure what OCUK will charge to build yet

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,343.87 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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in theory, to save more cash can switch to cheaper brand SSD, drop to 450w PSU unit as 1060 requires less power- though for future upgrades id stick to paying £6 more for 550w version . Eisbaer 240 can also be dropped as 8400 lower TDP and speed doesn't produce as much heat as a stock or overclocked 8600k . good solid aircooler will do it just fine and hold its boost... i think that bequiet cooler on sale will just squeeze in! :D
also swapping OEM version of the chip saves £10 but warranty is lessor

monitor changed, gtx 1060 wouldnt drive 1440p 60hz as well as 1080p 144hz :)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
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worth posting up on CS section on the forum or calling up and quoting the thread to see what they can do​
 
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Thanks again, I'm firing over to OCUK for a quote for them to build the 2 options. My brain is saying stay under £1,500 inc. build time... but my brain rarely wins!

I'll post here with what I get back
 
Geordie1881 said:
Thanks again, I'm firing over to OCUK for a quote for them to build the 2 options. My brain is saying stay under £1,500 inc. build time... but my brain rarely wins!

I'll post here with what I get back
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sorry, updated the screen ^^^^ but honestly keep the 550w psu as back up! i think they are doing a deal on Seasonic Focus 550w as well!!!!

keep within your means - GPUs go out of date every gen or 2 years hahaha
 
probably slightly over £1500 budget if you ask ocuk to build you a custom spec, but i think it's worth the extra expense
8c16t ryzen processor
16gb of arguably the best ram available
1070ti. basically 60% faster than a 1060 6gb
i would personally try to avoid seagate drives if possible. anecdotally WD are that bit more reliable than seagate
also 27 inch 1440p IPS monitor
not added windows 10 (you said you have a copy already?)

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orbitalwalsh said:
AOC 1440p VA
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depends on what trade off you want. i've got the AOC 32inch 1440p VA screen you're on about. its a very good budget panel, but the VA screen is last gen's, so ghosting is reasonably evident.
but you'd get better blacks on the VA compared to IPS...
 
tamzzy said:
no more than hot intel processors :p

op mentioned:

if this means video rendering/encoding, i'm not quite sure if B360 VRMs will handle the constant load/heat and not throttle.
ryzen 1700+b350 on the other hand though... :D
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Yeah, vrm on all vendors for B360 and H370 are better quality then z370 .
Believe they ahve all switched to ones that produce less heat and and can handle higher heat loads. Would explain h370 boards costing more and having higher VRM counts then most z370 boards haha
 
I may have caused confusion with mentioning video. Media streaming / watching media files from PC. Not intending to do much rendering/encoding, if at all.

I'd really appreciate a nudge in the right direction for my options...
1) Intel i5-8600K, GTX 1070 Windforce (could I go GTX 1070Ti as seems to be same price), 16GB 2400MHz RAM, 32" VA Monitor
2) Ryzen 7 1700, GTX 1070Ti, 16GB '8Pack Edition' 3200MHz RAM, 27" IPS Monitor

Option 1 is £110 more than Option 2, which is negligible in the scheme of things

Cheers

Rob
 
IMHO, the only intel chip worth getting is the 8700/k. everything else just loses to amd ryzen for bang-for-buck.
even the 8700/k isn't that great in terms of value for money, it's just the best performing chip for gaming (and hence paying the premium for that)
so I'd go with my ryezn 1700 build :p

others may feel free to disagree with that assessment :)
 
For me it's i7 8700 and 8400 , both non K chips haha, just because of their price and Intel finally increasing speed of non K chips .

Ryzen 1600 is a damn good price and from leak 2600/2600x prices will be a little more so will be a nice choice for budget builds.

Can't fault tamz build , damn good !

Personally for me it's 8400 Vs 1600 price wise
And a gtx 1070ti ... Yeah, that's a cracking little gpu

And would side with Tamz build , drop screen if needs be if you can save up etc
 
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Thanks both, so I think I have managed to find something which boosts performance without increasing cost... I think... So a number of options as I understand it, I have not included OS or the monitor and have kept the same case, PSU, SSD, HDD and GPU so that the comparison is easier.

1. Pre-built but configured i7-8700K - I need a hand with the fan / water cooling unit on this one please as choices are restricted

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs Coffee Lake Midi Tower Gaming PC Configurator = £1,460.87
    • Case:Corsair Carbide 270R Mid Tower Case - Black Window (CC-9011105-WW)
    • Memory:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G24
    • Power Supply:Bitfenix Whisper M Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply
    • CPU Cooler:Alpenfohn Brocken ECO CPU Cooler - 120 mm
    • M.2 Solid State Drive **For Operating System If Selected**:Unwanted
    • Solid State Drive 1:Samsung 500GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E500B/EU)
    • Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:WD 1TB Blue 7200rpm Internal Hard Drive (WD10EZEX)
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Optical Drive **Please Check Chassis Support**:Unwanted
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Unwanted
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched within 7 working days
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Monitor:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Motherboard:Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming Intel Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
    • Processor:Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
    • Graphics Card:Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070Ti Gaming 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Total: £1,474.97 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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2. Intel i5-8600K - Does not include build costs

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,389.83 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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3. Ryzen 7 1700 - Does not include build costs and does it need a fan / water cooling unit ?

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,298.88 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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4. Pre-built but configured i5-8400

The 4th option would be the pre-built but configured i5-8400 with GTX 1070 (Palit) and some other changes coming in at roughly £1200 but for some reason I am not loving the 2.8GHz CPU. I could increase to i7-8700 for 3.2GHz for £1300 but I am erring on the side that less Premium items will be part of non-configurable aspect of the build.

 
Geordie1881 said:
does it need a fan / water cooling unit ?
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no. stock ryzen cooler is pretty decent and you won't need an aftermarket cooler unless you're going for monster overclocking.

Geordie1881 said:
1 x Bitfenix Whisper M Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £89.99
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might as well get the seasonic focus plus gold. £10 cheaper, more warranty (10 vs 7 years), newer (and arguably) better psu

Geordie1881 said:
1 x Corsair Carbide 270R Mid Tower Case - Black Window (CC-9011105-WW)= £61.99
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paying £25 and nearly doubling the case cost, just for corsair tax is a bit steep.
I'd stick to the kolink stronghold case imo

both the 8600k and the 1700 builds are solid. but the 1700 edges it, in terms of overall longevity.
ryzen is a supported platform until 2020, whereas intel platform is dead with no upgrade path (except for getting a 8700k when the 8600k is long in the tooth)
also 8 core 16 thread on the ryzen 1700 vs 6 core 6 thread on the 8600k, will last longer and performance should hopefully improve (like fine wine :p) in the future, as more and more programs become better multithreaded
 
All 3 looks solid !
Intel does come with 3 games that might soften the blow . Nice to see we finally have choice! When ryzen came out all we listed as value for money, performance and two fingers to Intel , finally got their act together but z370 and coffee was a rush job .. it's a good CPU! should have been better by being soldered which it needs to be, but does show Intel could have done this with previous gens .

With ryzen, would get a £20 cooler. Just so you can push it to the max !
Maybe RGB one to add some nice lightly..

Ryzen 2000 series is coming out, but you can see OCUK adjusted price over and official price to make the 1600 sit nicely with a B350 chipset board - would roughly be £100 cheaper then ryzen 2600x and budget x470 . As you seen with GPU and ram prices that the diff between 16GB for 1970/1080...
 
Thanks again both. Looking at the 8600k build above, this may be cost prohibitive as adding £200 exceeds the price of the 8700k. The Ryzen build looks like it could come in roughly the same price as the 8700k which then pits 6 core / 12 thread (i7) against 8 core / 16 thread (Ryzen). I could tweak the pre-build to a i5-8600k and knock £90 off but not sure if that is a good idea as I don't upgrade that often (if at all). On Tamzzy's advice I have changed to a less expensive case (one recommended is not available within the pre-build options nor is the PSU)

The builds below would all include the build cost as they all based on the configurator options

1. £1,425 - i7-8700k / 1080 Ti / 16GB 2400MHz RAM
- still not sure on what cooler to get within this build (there are specific options to choose from or if an obvious choice I could ask them to tweak the build)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...G2u1.bmhH2u1-bmhI2u1@bmhJ2/Z'bmhK2/Z.bmhR2u,4

2. £1,335 - i5-8600k / 1080 Ti / 16GB 2400MHz RAM
- As above build but dropped to 15-8600k
- advice on cooler again please

3. £1,285 - Ryzen 7 1700 / 1080 Ti / 16GB 3000MHz RAM (Team Group but not '8Pack Edition')
- I could ask that the RAM be tweaked to 8Pack Edition which appears to be an extra £30
- For CPU, the 1700X is only £10 more or 1800X is £40 more than 1700 - worth it?
- Is the default cooler in the build reasonable or is another in the options more appropriate

4. £1,355 (ish) - Ryzen 7 1800X / 1080 Ti / 16GB 3200MHz RAM ('8Pack Edition')
- Not sure if upgrading CPU to 1800X or RAM to '8Pack Edition' would change any of the other elements such as PSU / cooling. If so, perhaps disregard this one.

I'm fairly certain to be picking one of these options unless anyone thinks I have overlooked something ?
 
no real difference between ryzen 1700/1800/1800x - also with that amount of money you might as well wait for ryzen+ 2700x

we quoted 1400/1600 due to it being cheap and yes ryzen 2600x will be out but will cost £40 more plus needing to use a more expensive x470 board so adding another £100

think you made a typo with the gtx 1080ti - meaning the gtx 1070 ti i guess ? haha

build one and 3 look good. build one you'll need a 360 AIO if you intend to get OCUK to OC as high as it can get

one good thing with build 3- in 4/5 ears time you can drop a second hand Zen 2 chip which is 2019/20 release to give some extra power ! :D
 
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