Caporegime
No-one is 'established as town'
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I agree that lynching Psymonkee just because he's inactive isn't the best thing to do, we should be choosing someone who is behaving like scum.
We need a night kill really, we're basically in the same position we were yesterday
I don't think we need a night kill to be honest. You can't discern the reasons for the NK. Our lynch yesterday was sub-optimal because we ended up on a bandwagon rather than voting for the players who's behaviour is scummy.
You still seem to be following this track of "there's no information, there's nothing we can do" that you were yesterday, while a number of us, including the player who has some decent experience are saying otherwise. It looks pretty scummy to me. If you are town, I don't know what your game plan is.
Caporegime
But if I'm mafia what is my gameplan? Scummy behavior would be trying to get the town to lynch someone by questioning someones behavior. Saying the opposite of that is if anything far removed from scummy behavior.
You keep saying we have information, share it then?
You keep saying we have information, share it then?
Soldato
I think he's basically waiting until all the other townies are dead. Then he'll definitely be able to say with absolute certainly who the scum are. Until then he's got no information so isn't going to commit himself.
Whilst his behaviour is scummy I'm almost starting to read him as a player who just doesn't get how to play town rather than scum.
Soldato
Kaiowas I assume you're talking about Shami?
I'd agree with that, I said something similar earlier in the thread. It's an odd game he's playing regardless of his alignment. It is where I wanted my original vote in day 1 and it is where I would put it again this time. I haven't seen anything from anyone else yet to change my mind.
I'd agree with that, I said something similar earlier in the thread. It's an odd game he's playing regardless of his alignment. It is where I wanted my original vote in day 1 and it is where I would put it again this time. I haven't seen anything from anyone else yet to change my mind.
Caporegime
Good grief, the attitude in this game 
I find it amusing the people who were telling me there was plenty to go on day one and I was talking nonsense and being 'anti town' helped kill the cop, good job 'experts'
I find it amusing the people who were telling me there was plenty to go on day one and I was talking nonsense and being 'anti town' helped kill the cop, good job 'experts'
Soldato
vote: Shamikebab
I'm torn between if you are scum trying to be so guilty you look innocent since it's too obvious, or if you are a townie and completely apathetic to the whole thing.
Try reading this page? There is lots of information if you just open your eyes. We may not all know the information, but even watching who people are accusing can let you glean information out of people and find out what they know.
Either you are scum or you are this games Fortyseven. A distraction that will keep clouding everything over while you are still alive. Either way things will be much clearer without you and we can focus on scum hunting.
I'm torn between if you are scum trying to be so guilty you look innocent since it's too obvious, or if you are a townie and completely apathetic to the whole thing.
Try reading this page? There is lots of information if you just open your eyes. We may not all know the information, but even watching who people are accusing can let you glean information out of people and find out what they know.
Either you are scum or you are this games Fortyseven. A distraction that will keep clouding everything over while you are still alive. Either way things will be much clearer without you and we can focus on scum hunting.
Caporegime
Lol, what a load of nonsense. Either you're a bad town player or you are mafia trying to play the 'Town White Knight' card. If it's the latter then everyone seems to have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.
Please, do share the 'evidence' you have on me. I'd love to hear it and defend myself.
Please, do share the 'evidence' you have on me. I'd love to hear it and defend myself.
Soldato
Attitude? Calm down Mr. Rolleyes. 
You were party to the cop killing escapade too it's worth pointing out, you were the one who delivered the hammer blow.
Fortyseven wasn't really everyone's first choice, he just happened to be the one who ended up being lynched because it was better for the town that we did. There is only so much you can gleam from this game, there was no way of knowing that he was the cop. That was just plain bad luck.
For whatever reason you didn't seem to like the new approach this game was taking on day 1, when it was obvious something needed to change given the complete failures of last 3 day1 games. If anyone had 'attitude' early on it was you, which is why several thought you might be scum.
You were party to the cop killing escapade too it's worth pointing out, you were the one who delivered the hammer blow.
Fortyseven wasn't really everyone's first choice, he just happened to be the one who ended up being lynched because it was better for the town that we did. There is only so much you can gleam from this game, there was no way of knowing that he was the cop. That was just plain bad luck.
For whatever reason you didn't seem to like the new approach this game was taking on day 1, when it was obvious something needed to change given the complete failures of last 3 day1 games. If anyone had 'attitude' early on it was you, which is why several thought you might be scum.
Soldato
It's like I said. You are playing extremely negatively and ate either scum trying to appear so obviously anti town that you must be a townie because a scum would never be that obvious.
And if you aren't scum then you are a distraction. Look at what happened last game with Fortyseven. He made one mistake post on the first day and the rest of the game was spent in confusion with everybody going back to him and trying to figure out if he was really town of not, rather than focusing all their attention on proper scum hunting. And I don't want that to happen again this time.
And if you aren't scum then you are a distraction. Look at what happened last game with Fortyseven. He made one mistake post on the first day and the rest of the game was spent in confusion with everybody going back to him and trying to figure out if he was really town of not, rather than focusing all their attention on proper scum hunting. And I don't want that to happen again this time.
Caporegime
Indeed, I knew we needed a lynch and at that point there was only one person people were willing to vote for so it was either him or no-one. The odds were in our favor but we were unlucky.
My attitude simply came from the hostile reaction from several so called experienced players who were outraged at my suggestion that day one was basically a guess in the end.
My attitude simply came from the hostile reaction from several so called experienced players who were outraged at my suggestion that day one was basically a guess in the end.
Caporegime
Simple, if you don't want that to happen then stop doing it. Either lynch me (and kill off another townie) or move on and discuss other suspicions. It's your call really.
Soldato
yes because saying you have "niggles" isn't vague in the slightest??? yes 47 was a bad choice, he wasnt my first choice either. I wanted to see a lynch first day, but didnt want to vote as i didnt think anyone stood out for me, however iviv pointed out that it looked scummy if i didnt vote so i decided to choose someone who i though did come across as not in the best interests of the town and actually had a chance of being lynched. I now regret doing so as the cop is probably one of the most useful roles, but 47's death has drummed up some debate but really until we get our first night kill there still isnt much to go on
Soldato
In the interests of varying the subject a little, what's everyone elses read on shorttricky and leprechaun?
They were both on my "possible" list on day 1 and now appear to have started on each other making it far less likely (but still possible) that both are scum, which means that the more likely options are that either one is town and the other scum, or they're two townies squabbling amongst themselves. Any one got any reads either way?
They were both on my "possible" list on day 1 and now appear to have started on each other making it far less likely (but still possible) that both are scum, which means that the more likely options are that either one is town and the other scum, or they're two townies squabbling amongst themselves. Any one got any reads either way?
Soldato
LOL - I had them both on my town list. Mainly because they both said something about the mafia role which was wrong and showed a misunderstanding of the role.
Soldato
Noted, I'll pass on my thoughts when I get home so I can properly go through all their previous posts.
Soldato
Of the two, I'm more inclined to say that Shorttricky is town than Leprechaun.
Soldato
for all we know iviv could be mafia doing exactly what you're saying but if he isnt and he is townie, which i think he is, then he is pointing the finger at you like others have because you dont seem to be trying to play as townie. You threw out a vote for Chris with seemingly no explanation. This lead to people thinking you were scum, you are still fighting with everyone over them point the finger and you need to stop and start to show that you arent scum. if you are townie then you need to take a step back and tone it down and prove to us your not scum
this does not help either, like i said you need to prove your townie rather than asking us to make a decision based on the current evidence, because currently most people will vote in iviv's favor to be honest.
Caporegime
As I said, day one is nothing more than a guess. A noisy player took issue with that and called me out as 'lurking' so I voted for him as my guess of the day, all very consistent.
How does one prove they are town, go on I'd love to hear it. It's impossible to defend myself at the moment because the people that have accused me have provided no evidence whatsoever. Without points to argue against, what can I defend against?
Soldato
the squabbling is because he has a "niggle" which by the way i still don't what it is he has basically pointed the finger said "you sir, are scum" when asked why "i dunno, but there is something in my teeth" just saying he is pointing the finger with no reason behind it