Mains cable missing from box

Akagi · 26 Dec 2020 at 19:29

Kenai said:
Not really, the point there was that not coming with a power lead was such a big deal it made national news. That's how much a power lead is just an expected part of an electrical product.

Thats fair. But OP did find cables for them so a big deal was made out of it when it needn't have been necessarily.

I'm still curious about whether it did indeed say a cable would be included like he said, or if it didnt but it was assumed.

One means OcUK messed up, the other means they dont come with power cables. In either case I think the reasonable thing to do would be to just include them.

mrk · 26 Dec 2020 at 20:00

They cost £2.50 tops. they should be included with anything that needs to be plugged into a wall as part of the bundle, even if the system builder buys parts as OEM boxed so probably won't come with extra cables as such because it's an OEM system builder product like how an OEM CPU won't come with a heatsink but a retail one will.

Regardless, it's a total non issue really. Everyone has a kettle lead lying around the house given how many things use the damn things.

Feek · 26 Dec 2020 at 20:04

I’ve already posted to say that a mains cable is normally provided with a 13A fuse.

Akagi · 26 Dec 2020 at 20:48

Feek said:
I’ve already posted to say that a mains cable is normally provided with a 13A fuse.

Yes you did dear.

Destination · 27 Dec 2020 at 22:32

Acme said:
Maybe its brand specific then.

I've had Silverstone and XFX with no cables, Corsair and OCZ with american cables.

Where on earth are you buying from?
Quite seriously.
An electrical appliance in the UK must come with a plug, a moulded plug.
Often they do partial plugs now where you can interchange the prongs.
Or USB where a device in theory can derive power without a plug.
All PSU should have a plug, if UK sourced properly.

V F · 27 Dec 2020 at 23:56

Destination said:
Where on earth are you buying from?
Quite seriously.
An electrical appliance in the UK must come with a plug, a moulded plug.
Often they do partial plugs now where you can interchange the prongs.
Or USB where a device in theory can derive power without a plug.
All PSU should have a plug, if UK sourced properly.

Who remembers when it was loose wires?

Akagi · 28 Dec 2020 at 01:46

Destination said:
Where on earth are you buying from?
Quite seriously.
An electrical appliance in the UK must come with a plug, a moulded plug.
Often they do partial plugs now where you can interchange the prongs.
Or USB where a device in theory can derive power without a plug.
All PSU should have a plug, if UK sourced properly.

Well this is awkward... Um... OcUK?

Hades · 28 Dec 2020 at 02:09

V F said:
Who remembers when it was loose wires?

I remember when most appliances didn't come with a plug. The first thing you had to do was wire one on.

chroniclard · 28 Dec 2020 at 02:10

Did OP find his antennas.....

labbby · 28 Dec 2020 at 09:15

Hades said:
I remember when most appliances didn't come with a plug. The first thing you had to do was wire one on.

Haha yep, I remember this. You would go to the check out where there would be loads of plugs to buy

Terminal_Boy · 28 Dec 2020 at 09:22

Hades said:
I remember when most appliances didn't come with a plug. The first thing you had to do was wire one on.

That was back when there was someone in most households capable of wiring a plug correctly. Now there isn’t and they are directly moulded on to prevent injuries and fires

builder22 · 28 Dec 2020 at 11:07

they're only moulded now because folk thought they were capable of wiring a plug, which then caused the injuries and fires

DXP55 · 28 Dec 2020 at 12:17

I can remember 5amp rubber plugs. - we had one on a kettle and as my Dad pulled the plug out (no switch) it left a pin in socket - I went to put kettle on and asked dad what had happened - I said did you get a pair of insulated pliars to pull pin out - He went white and lucky it was negative pin
I had a job at a college once and the handy man showed me a box of 13a plugs he had replace on appliances the students had fitted - I doubt very much the student/kids are any better today.
Think nails - ciggy foil - insulation stripped back to clamp and very neatly wound tightly and connected to each terminal without any wire touching and loads more I can't remember.

Hades · 28 Dec 2020 at 12:23

builder22 said:
they're only moulded now because folk thought they were capable of wiring a plug, which then caused the injuries and fires

It's three wires, one fuse and some screws. How hard can it be?

But you are right. Moulded plugs were introduced for safety. I think there was also a big issue with people putting the wrong fuse in older plugs. They would put a 13a fuse in something needing only 5a and causing a fire when the fus should have blown.

Mr.Cookie · 28 Dec 2020 at 18:34

My other half amazed me on wiring a plug,
"Brown starts br bottom right, blue starts bl bottom left and whatever is left goes in the middle"
I've wired more plugs than I care to think, but never noticed or was taught that.

robj20 · 28 Dec 2020 at 18:54

Brown, the colour of poo, what you will do if you touch that wire.
That's how I remembered it.

Feek · 28 Dec 2020 at 19:06

Mr.Cookie said:
My other half amazed me on wiring a plug,
"Brown starts br bottom right, blue starts bl bottom left and whatever is left goes in the middle"

That’s exactly how I remember it and I’ve probably fitted hundreds, BRown Bottom Right, BLue Bottom Left.
The most recent time was just a couple of days ago.

muon · 28 Dec 2020 at 19:47

Acme said:
Maybe its brand specific then.

I've had Silverstone and XFX with no cables, Corsair and OCZ with american cables.

So you are saying you get American PSUs?

Can't be right.

European ones maybe (although I've always received UK specific power supplied).

As for this thread I had no idea they had different fuses. I just throw all kettle leads into a box and use a random one when required.

edit:

Because of this thread I'm gonna switch the cables for the 5A ones. I wonder what the 10A and 13A fused cables came with.

edit2:

They probably came with power supplies thinking about it. Because at 120V it's possible to pull 5A.

Thekwango · 28 Dec 2020 at 19:52

Acme said:
Well this is awkward... Um... OcUK?

it certainly is, are OcUK selling grey market imports!! :eek:

V F · 28 Dec 2020 at 20:20

builder22 said:
they're only moulded now because folk thought they were capable of wiring a plug, which then caused the injuries and fires

I used to chuckle when I saw L and R on motocross bike footpegs. Considering there is only one way they can go on.

Or how about the people that wrap tin foil around blown fuses...