Making a murderer - The Avery case (Spoilers)

[ecksmen]

Well yeah that's the problem, the show only showed one side of the story.

Absolutely, all I know after watching it is that he didn't get a fair trial, at least what I would consider fair (I have no legal experience mind; though I do enjoy law and order so clearly an expert).

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In reference to use of spoilers, I'm surprised by peoples reaction to their usage!

Spoiler

 

[ecksmen]

Everyone is harping on about this in work

Sorry bout that.

 

[DJMK4]

Sorry bout that.

Iv still got to watch from ep 2 onwards, although saying that since Mr F. M got me in to it, i got side tracked with a british murder doc, going to watch more of this making a murderer tonight

 

[Hilly]

Happy for this to remain here, thsi is obviously for the discussion of the case, rather than the TV series.

 

[Angilion]

Well yeah that's the problem, the show only showed one side of the story.

Did it mention that he poured petrol on a cat and threw it in a fire just to watch it burn to death? Or that he served 6 years for an assault he committed shortly before the crime he was wrongly convicted of? Part of the whole story is what sort of person he is.

 

[Longbow]

Other people might know about it and discus in more detail, while those that haven't can either read spoilers or avoid spoilers.

This isn't a movie, this is a murder case almost 9 years old, even if it were a movie, spoiler is written in the title, no need to have everything written in spoiler tags as well.

 

[shifty_uk]

The only reason I used spoiler tags in the OP was due to uncertainty about the thread belonging in GD but it would be good to progress the discussion without it.

Did it mention that he poured petrol on a cat and threw it in a fire just to watch it burn to death? Or that he served 6 years for an assault he committed shortly before the crime he was wrongly convicted of? Part of the whole story is what sort of person he is.

Not doubting his criminal past and how prone he is to reoffending(even the cat incident is unforgivable) but jssmokes comment about him being the fall guy for a family of crooks, not on, he should face a fair trial against a police force who played the case by the book from day 1. This didn't happen on 2 major occasions which has resulted in 18 years imprisonment for a crime he was wrongly committed for followed by life for one that has a 50/50 chance. Not to mention the part Brendons case played in his conviction. A 16 year old(at the time of the trial) mentally handicapped relative who was coerced into testifying by everyone including his defence team with absolutely zero physical evidence he was any part of the killing.

 

[shifty_uk]

Not seen it getting 'traction' in UK media at all which would explain why it's buried elsewhere on the forum.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18709660

Now I'm not surprised that it hasn't surfaced before.

Really?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ions-regarding-steven-avery-are-a6798611.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...grant-steven-avery-a-reprieve-_n_8929248.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...red-Teresa-Halbach-framed-family-dispute.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/artic...x-interesting-things-about-the-netflix-series

Traction enough globally considering Netflix has a limited audience and the police forces and authorities involved in the case have been inundated with calls requesting complete libraries of case material along with the White House having to come out and say they can't take any involvement due to the fact that it's a county court case.

 

[Limpnoodle]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5189670/

Any of you guys watched this,
its on netflix
i watched it all and i was left in a gasp!
Keep in mind they are real life people when you watch it!

9/10

 

[swillsy]

Yep finished episode 10 today - absolutely unbelievable.

I had to google after four episodes to make sure it was real!!

Makes you think twice about going to these sorts of hill billy places

 

[Limpnoodle]

Poor old Brendan Dassey they presided him to make the confession cause he was trying to do/say the right thing , he didn't know what he was doing :/ so sad
poor kid

 

[Cosimo]

Really?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ions-regarding-steven-avery-are-a6798611.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...grant-steven-avery-a-reprieve-_n_8929248.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...red-Teresa-Halbach-framed-family-dispute.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/artic...x-interesting-things-about-the-netflix-series

Traction enough globally considering Netflix has a limited audience and the police forces and authorities involved in the case have been inundated with calls requesting complete libraries of case material along with the White House having to come out and say they can't take any involvement due to the fact that it's a county court case.

Just some Netflix program publicity which wouldn't be there if it wasn't being shown. I'd hardly call that real news.

 

[Bigpig]

Dunno if he did it or not but what they did to the nephew was outrageous.
How where they even aloud to take that into the court.

 

[Raymond Lin]

That Brenden kid clearly isn't bright and it's TERRIBLE they could do that to him, using him as a mean to get Avery. The kid was 16!!!

 

[TheVoice]

Because people don't know about the case?

What are you confused about? Do we need to use spoiler tags when discussing all historic crimes now, in case anyone is on the edge of their seat about the outcome?

 

[Glaucus]

America is littered with extremely dodgy convictions, and a lot if dodgy convictions have ended up in death sentence that has been carried our.

Still think the reason America hates the middle east so much, is they remind them if them self, the mist backwards corrupt western country.
Ok we aren't perfect but we and a lot of other western countries are far better.

 

[Hedge]

We've been watching this recently. Only just watched the episode where it showed the nephew interviews. Kinda made me sick really. The lad was obviously not that intelligent and to say that he handed himself in because the guilt was eating away at him just seemed rubbish to me.

The way they kept saying "be honest" made me rage.

The fact that they supposedly cut her throat etc yet had a room with no blood in it just seemed totally unbelievable.

 

[shifty_uk]

Indeed and why the jury couldn't see the lack of correlation between the two cases...Brendan raping, cutting her throat before burning her...absolutely zero physical evidence of this yet in the Avery case, there was evidence her dead body was in the car and remains were found elsewhere in the county....Oh America...

Mind = blown.

 

[shifty_uk]

The law firm of Len Kachinsky has recently taken a pounding on Yelp:
http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/sisson-and-kachinsky-law-office-appleton

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

One of Brendan's action for me puts any other question to bed...

"Hey how long is this going to take? I have a paper to complete by tonight".... The police imo more than likely said, " Hey listen if you say this, we'll say that your uncle put you up to it and you'll serve no time and be the victim". The guy didn't come forward, he was a target for the police. Lets face if this was a first time offense then you'd believe he's guilty, but going on previous evidence of the sheriffs dept they would LITERALLY do anything to frame... Not to mention:

* Opening a blood vial they kept on Steve
* The DA and Chief visiting the crime scene 3 days after the FBI and "finding" a key behind slippers!

COME ON!!!

A 36mil law suit that insurance companies had said they would not cover....