Malaysian Grand Prix 2011, Sepang International Circuit - Race 2/19

tigerstyle · 11 Apr 2011 at 17:02

Why can't F1.com get the naming right? Good to see OcUK have got it right, if I were Malaysian I'd be spitting feathers...

It's the Malaysian grand prix, not the Malaysia GP

http://www.formula1.com/races/

Setroc · 11 Apr 2011 at 17:06

ps3ud0 said:
Rubbish - if the driver who experiencing the conditions cant work out what set he should use next and how to treat them then they should get out of the sport. Ultimately data collected by the team will support that decision but it should never be their decision - how you think a set of numbers should be valued higher than what the drivers feeling on track is mental...

As dannyjo2 said earlier Hamiltons just been way too mollycoddled by Mclaren - he just is so naive, when things dont go his way he pulls a sulk and shrugs...

ps3ud0

Rubbish - we are not talking about deciding which set of tyres to use, this is an easy decision. What we are talking about is predicting how long a set of tyres is going to last before you've even started using them. I don't know how you expect the drivers to be able to judge this since the determining factors are historical data, track temperatures, and the condition of pre-scrubbed tyres.

ps3ud0 · 11 Apr 2011 at 17:11

Setroc said:
Rubbish - we are not talking about deciding which set of tyres to use, this is an easy decision.

Arent we?

Setroc said:
To be honest the tyre decision should be left to McLaren and not Hamilton, and the team screwed up.

ps3ud0

Shimmy · 11 Apr 2011 at 17:14

f1fanatic said:
McLaren got Hamilton ahead of Heidfeld by bringing him into the pits a lap earlier and giving him the benefit of a lap on fresher tyres before Heidfeld.

But at his second stop Hamilton had to switch to hard tyres having flat-spotted one set of softs during qualifying. His pace on those tyres was less good – and on the next set it was worse.

Hamilton came under attack from Fernando Alonso, but Alonso dropped back after hitting the rear of the McLaren. Hamilton was powerless to keep Heidfeld behind, though.

According to McLaren, it was Hamilton who made the call for a final extra pit stop which dropped him from fourth to seventh.

Teams give drivers advice on tyre changes, the ultimate decision lies with the driver. Perez showed that at Melbourne where no one envisaged a one stopper.

Setroc · 11 Apr 2011 at 17:15

The tyre decision being when to stop - the timing of his final stop in particular seemed nonsensical given the expected tyre degradation - not which set of tyres to put on... so I guess we're discussing different things here

ps3ud0 · 11 Apr 2011 at 17:18

Yeah most call it a pit stop not a tyre decision. Sorry I had to

ps3ud0

Yas786 · 11 Apr 2011 at 17:18

Just reading about the race yesterday and pretty amazed that Hamilton got penalised for weaving but yet Vettel gets away with weaving.

Personally this is why i dont bother watching F1 anymore....its full of corrupt ****wits who just want to screw everyone but Ferrari

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Still hope that Hamilton can win the title this year but its not something ill be watching avidly...F1 just doesnt seem to be all that fair anymore

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Kerming · 11 Apr 2011 at 17:45

Spawn said:
F1 just doesnt seem to be all that fair anymore.

Im slowly but surely getting the same feelling. Funny that in the free practice sessions lewis was at the same pace as the redbull's race pace with both tires, but in the race somthing went wrong. But if lewis was at his normal pace (1-2 seconds quicker) he wouldn't have to defend so hard or even defend at all.

CaptainRAVE · 11 Apr 2011 at 18:06

F1 hasn't been fair for a long time. Problem is it is getting worse year on year.

Duke · 11 Apr 2011 at 18:26

You'll still watch it though

ins0mn1ac · 11 Apr 2011 at 18:50

I need more F1 to feed my addiction, this weekend cant come soon enough, I'm actually re-watching the Malaysian GP

sunama · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:09

Duke said:
You'll still watch it though

Duke · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:33

Fr0dders · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:35

Can people explain the hamilton tyres thing for me ?

From what i remember of the race, people on here were saying mclaren got lewis' tyre call wrong and brought him at the wrong time or got his tyre strategy mixed up and put him on hard tyres twice or something ?

Shimmy · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:37

MrLOL said:
Can people explain the hamilton tyres thing for me ?

From what i remember of the race, people on here were saying mclaren got lewis' tyre call wrong and brought him at the wrong time or got his tyre strategy mixed up and put him on hard tyres twice or something ?

Hamilton flat spotted a set of his softs in Quali, this meant he had to use an extra set of hards in the race.

deuse · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:46

Well vettel did not get a drive through for moving four times so..the FIA now stands for

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Slam62 · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:49

Shimmy said:
Hamilton flat spotted a set of his softs in Quali, this meant he had to use an extra set of hards in the race.

Hamilton never seems to have much of an input to his own race strategy which seems odd.

Shimmy · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:50

deuse said:
Well vettel did not get a drive through for moving four times so..the FIA now stands for

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8 drivers technically fell foul of the rule in Sepang.

Just everyone on this forum likes to highlight Vettel.

No one should have been punished mind, it was Ferrari and Alonso that brought it up with the stewards after the race which led to the penalty.

Slam62 · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:51

did they have driver steward this weekend?

Shimmy · 11 Apr 2011 at 19:55

Slam62 said:
did they have driver steward this weekend?

Yes, Emanuele Pirro. Also was at Abu Dhabi.