Malaysian Grand Prix 2013, Kuala Lumpur - Race 2/19
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My opinion is that the seven points gained by Vettel are going to fall into insignificance now that he will have to drive the rest of the season with a team mate who will not help him. Bad long term planning on his behalf.
huh?
Not really much history of Webber helping him anyway, how do you help someone when you slip from 2nd to 7th?
He's obeyed team orders before, yes.
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I'm sure we'll see come the end of the season. As I said, just my opinion.
It's sad. This is motorsport. Why should we, the fans, be happy with a team telling their drivers to stand off and not race each other, going against the whole idea of this sport... We're being robbed of action and if Vettel had listened to his team, he'd have been robbed of his oppertunity to get 1st place.
Good on you, Vettel, for doing what you're there to do. RACE!
Thanks for completely missing the whole point of the discussion. Well done.
I think he's summed it up quite nicely.
I think there are two issues here today.
1: Drivers should be allowed to race, or these things will always happen. I can completely see the team managers wanting both cars to finish yes, but there should never be a point in a race where the team effectively bans team mates from racing each other just because they may collide and both score zero points. They are professionals. May the fastest man win.
2: Whilst Seb did nothing illegal, it was the most cheap and disgusting "win" ever. Team orders were given to 4 drivers in the top 4.
3 of them followed them. That says a lot about Seb. He will always be a controversial driver as he has a lot of Schumacher in him, winning at any cost. And yes he will be remembered for being a good driver, because he is one, but he's also hated by a lot of people due to his attitude. He comes across a bad loser, a spoilt brat of the F1 world. If he's not winning, he's not interested.
The Redbull team dynamic now will be interesting, because how will Mark ever follow team orders now? Seb has clearly demonstrated that he will not be following them. Why should Mark?
1: Drivers should be allowed to race, or these things will always happen. I can completely see the team managers wanting both cars to finish yes, but there should never be a point in a race where the team effectively bans team mates from racing each other just because they may collide and both score zero points. They are professionals. May the fastest man win.
2: Whilst Seb did nothing illegal, it was the most cheap and disgusting "win" ever. Team orders were given to 4 drivers in the top 4.
3 of them followed them. That says a lot about Seb. He will always be a controversial driver as he has a lot of Schumacher in him, winning at any cost. And yes he will be remembered for being a good driver, because he is one, but he's also hated by a lot of people due to his attitude. He comes across a bad loser, a spoilt brat of the F1 world. If he's not winning, he's not interested.
The Redbull team dynamic now will be interesting, because how will Mark ever follow team orders now? Seb has clearly demonstrated that he will not be following them. Why should Mark?
Mark is at the end of his career being paid vast sums of money, might be a incentive.
While a lot of people would act that way, Mark is the better man.
Well at least the RBR's will race to the chequered flag, rather than to the final pit stop and then parade the last 15 laps.
