Man city escape ban! Or did they? [Update 6/2/23]

Thing is, it’s not just a few breaches, it’s over 100. And even then it was also the fact that City blocked and diverted their investigations and didn’t respond or cooperate in any way. What is it they say, if you’ve got nothing to hide then you’ve got nothing to fear? That will not have gone down well with the PL and the FA. Only relegation and a recruitment freeze for 2-3 seasons will suffice. Let’s see Pep coach a team with half the players they currently have out of the championship and not be able to buy half a dozen players when he wants them.
 
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MissChief said:
Thing is, it’s not just a few breaches, it’s over 100. And even then it was also the fact that City blocked and diverted their investigations and didn’t respond or cooperate in any way. What is it they say, if you’ve got nothing to hide then you’ve got nothing to fear? That will not have gone down well with the PL and the FA. Only relegation and a recruitment freeze for 2-3 seasons will suffice. Let’s see Pep coach a team with half the players they currently have out of the championship and not be able to buy half a dozen players when he wants them.
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You won’t see it, he’ll be straight off
 
I have read absolutely nothing on this, I'm sure nothing serious will happen also.

More titles we can't really celebrate doesn't mean much either but if they void winners of those seasons it would be fantastic.
 
Purdy said:
I have read absolutely nothing on this, I'm sure nothing serious will happen also.

More titles we can't really celebrate doesn't mean much either but if they void winners of those seasons it would be fantastic.
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From what I am reading on BBC, SKY etc, they are in a whole world of ****. So, I would think something serious will happen to them.
 
IronSpider said:
What are they, can you tell me what any of them are? Or a link to them?
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Are you suggesting that they have just concluded a 4 year investigation and are making up over 100 breaches of the rules or are you suggesting that they are all easily explained and just a misunderstanding. This isn't a case of City being accused of a vague crime of "being a bit dodgy". They are bringing specific charges against them and have over 100 incidents where City have broken the rules based on their investigation.
 
IronSpider said:
What are they, can you tell me what any of them are? Or a link to them?
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In accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1, the Premier League confirms that it has today referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club (Club) to a Commission under Premier League Rule W.3.4.

Details of the Premier League Rules that the Club is alleged to have breached are as follows:

1. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely:
(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.75 (amended to C.79 from 10 September 2009 for the remainder of Season 2009/10) and C.80;
(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, E.3, 4, E.11 and E.12;
(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;
(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules B.15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;
(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and
(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, 3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.

2. In respect of:
(a) each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2012/13 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2009/10 to 2011/12 inclusive, Premier League Rules Q.7 and Q.8; and
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules P.7 and P.8; and
(b) each of Seasons 2010/11 to 2015/16 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of player remuneration in its relevant contracts with its players, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12, Premier League Rules K.12 and K.20;
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.20;
(3) for Seasons 2013/14 and 2014/15, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.19; and
(4) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules T.13 and T.20.

3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:
(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and
(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.

4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely:
(a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and
(b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60.

5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:
(a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16; and
(e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16.

Commissions are independent of the Premier League and member clubs. The members of the Commission will be appointed by the independent Chair of the Premier League Judicial Panel, in accordance with Premier League Rules W.19, W.20 and W.26.

The proceedings before the Commission will, in accordance with Premier League Rule W.82, be confidential and heard in private. Under Premier League Rule W.82.2, the Commission’s final award will be published on the Premier League’s website.

This confirmation is made in accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1. The Premier League will be making no further comment in respect of this matter until further notice.


And here is the Premier League handbook to reference them too.
 
adam cool dude said:
I don't get this and I am not on twitter.
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Its Sam Bankman Fried. Guy who started up a crypto exchange/business that recently collapsed after being found to be a massive ponzi/fraud. Too good to be true turned out to be too good to be true. Lied, cheated and fiddled records to hide what he was up to for years until it became impossible to hide and it all collapsed. What appeared to be a relatively simple company collapse due to over-exposure and poor running turned out to be a colossal scale fraud.
 
Just reading some of the associated allegations.

One of their sponsors was based in a PO Box in a house in Watford with assets of just £1200 and claimed to be a leading eSports agency supporting the Qatar world cup. Nobody had ever heard of them and it turns out when the journalists did some digging the whole operation was controlled by an outlet in the UAE and City got around £50m.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Thrown out of the league? Could be good for FPL.
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From what I can tell, yeah. Its that serious. juventus got relegated and fined (points deduction, not sure) and their charges were not on the scale of Man Citys. Doesn't look good at for them. I think Juventus got titles stripped too, someone correct me if I am wrong there.

E: dont forget Derby got 30points deduction for breaking FFP rules and theirs were nowhere near what Juventus rule breaking was.
 
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