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I’m not really a fan of stripping titles and rewarding retrospectively second place. Fine then heavily and impose points for next season and transfer bans.
Man city escape ban! Or did they? [Update 6/2/23]
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If its proven they benefitted from dodgy deals in that particular season then the title needs stripping
Its not just the title its everything that comes with it. Prize money, commercial success etc. Then you have the implications to those missing out on top 4 / relegation.
This is absolutely huge.
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Yeah it’s a bit hollow to award another team a title for being second best. Can’t change the past we always were suspect and knew having sugar daddies massively gave them an unfair advantage over most of the league. That’s why I was never jealous of their success, why Liverpools and now Arsenals titles would always hurt more. They did it the right way and deserved it, City/Chelsea turned on the cheat code.
I remember when ffp came into effect having conversations with mates about how loopholes would be found and inflated deals would be made. It was obvious.
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They’d probably say it applies to 26/27+ seasons lol
Caporegime
I think the best course of action is to apply the cheating to ffp in the future so essentially they are paying back what they owe.
A points ban will hurt them for one season but putting a restriction on their ffp for several seasons will hurt them a lot more.
Everyone thinks Haaland was cheap in a transfer sense but he was far from it.
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Caporegime
The problem is that if you allow clubs to keep the profits of their cheating then you are encouraging it. When an athlete is know to have been doping they will either have a mark against any wins or they will have the win taken from them. This is no different in my eyes.
Fundamentally United and Liverpool fans are not going to celebrate if they get given a couple more titles from the past 12 or so years. City will no longer have them against their name. Thats the important bit.
Imagine if you said to people who stole a load of money "yes we are sending you to jail for 5 years but you can keep that £20m you stole". What would that say to anyone else thinking of doing the same.
Businesses have been punished for years for doing highly illegal things and they unsurprisingly keep doing them when they feel the benefits outweigh the costs. You need to make sure that clubs know that if they cheat they will suffer. They will be stripped of anything they won from cheating and they will also be punished going forwards.
Soldato
If it was a one off then fine but this appears to be on a completely different scale and needs harsh punishment
Caporegime
I would also say City need making an example of as otherwise it is only going to get worse now Newcastle have joined the party. Forests owner also has a lot more money then he lets on.
Soldato
We all know nothing will happen to them. Big old sack o' cash will sort it out.
Caporegime
Strip them of every domestic title and trophy they've won since this all began and demote them to League 2 vs massive fine which benefits the PL?
Why league 2? Drop them out of it altogether, let them do a Rangers.
The clubs wont stand for that. No chance.
Had the same in rugby a couple years ago with Sarries. They got fined, big points deduction, relegated......then stomped all over the championship and got promoted back straight away, resumed their position among the top clubs.
Stupid regulations in the first place but the rules are there and if they broke them or it can be proved they have to drop down a division.
I have always been happier with if they have the money let them spend it, you know like United did. If the owner can pay it, let them.
I have always been happier with if they have the money let them spend it, you know like United did. If the owner can pay it, let them.
Soldato
They won't have to award the title to the seconds placed club, they can just say no one won it that year.
Even if they are guilty of all this I doubt the PL has the balls to do what should be done and strip them of their titles, give them a massive points deduction and a 3 year minimum transfer ban. I think they should do what happened to Rangers and send them back to the lowest league to start again but I don't think they could do that without the FA backing. Its cheating plain and simple.
Caporegime
Letting owners pump as much money in as they want regardless of revenue is a sure way of totally ruining football as a competitive sport. It then just becomes a fattest wallet competition.
Caporegime
Blue moon mob appear to be getting angrier as the day goes on. they'll never accept their club has done anything wrong, it’s all a conspiracy.