As it pretty much always has been In my lifetime. There’s been the odd Leicester Leeds and Everton in my life time but other than that it’s been the top two or three richest clubs all the way. It’s always been dominated by money.
Man city escape ban! Or did they? [Update 6/2/23]
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As it pretty much always has been In my lifetime. There’s been the odd Leicester Leeds and Everton in my life time but other than that it’s been the top two or three richest clubs all the way. It’s always been dominated by money.
Caporegime
Chances are good that half their players would have a contract clause that allowed them to leave for free if they were relegated. They wouldn't be able to afford to buy all those players back when they get promoted. It would have a massive effect on them.
Rugby is dealing with chump change in comparison.
Caporegime
Even without a RC, they probably couldn’t afford to keep their squad together anyway. Still got to play by the financial rules.
I’m sure they could come up with a few more sponsors who’s head office is in an empty building in Gibraltar or in the caymans that has no website, no internet history, seemingly no staff and no CEO but has sponsored City for millions.
Caporegime
So if Man Utd and Liverpool get their 3 titles each back will there be an open top bus parade in the summer with Brendan Rogers, Klopp and the old teams plus another with Fergie, Mourinho and Ole with the old gang?
Haha.
At the beginning I just thought meh but the more it is opening up the bigger the mess really is. If you were going to null and void Cities titles you are opening up a whole can of worms from a financial perspective then the league's would have to be redrawn if each team were rewarded points they would have lost from a city loss. It could change the face of relegations and even league winners not just assuming second place wins it.
Cities cheating for example could have cost a team being relegated who is now languishing in league 2.
It is also a massive stain on Pep's career through no fault of his own.
Haha.
At the beginning I just thought meh but the more it is opening up the bigger the mess really is. If you were going to null and void Cities titles you are opening up a whole can of worms from a financial perspective then the league's would have to be redrawn if each team were rewarded points they would have lost from a city loss. It could change the face of relegations and even league winners not just assuming second place wins it.
Cities cheating for example could have cost a team being relegated who is now languishing in league 2.
It is also a massive stain on Pep's career through no fault of his own.
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The PL won't do this, just like they didn't with the West Ham/Tevez saga. What possibly could happen is that if any one club could legitimately claim significant losses as a result of City's cheating, they could sue City. This is what happened with Sheffield Utd and West Ham after Sheffield Utd were relegated that season. At best you're probably looking at the one side that missed out on the CL arguing it cost them £x in each season.
Oh Pep isnt stupid. If we all could see what was going on then surely he does.
Caporegime
But you could also theoretically have a team that stayed up solely because they took points from city that season but another that got relegated because they lost both times. If City were removed the points would be null and void effecting the bottom not just the top.
Complete mess which is probably why the league will not do anything retrospective but cripple them for the future.
Likewise there could have been teams that may or may not have qualified for Europe or won the League because of results against West Ham. It's very difficult to argue that the sole reason for x being relegated, qualifying for Europe etc rested on one result. What Sheffield Utd had to do was argue that over the season Tevez proved the difference between them staying up and going down.
City could in theory be stripped of titles however I can't see them retrospectively awarding League titles to the side that finished 2nd, let alone looking at every single result and seeing how that impacted x, y and z.As I said, it's possible but I can't imagine likely that an individual club could look to take their own action against City following whatever the PL decide.
Caporegime
They do that, City jump to the ESL.
Which doesn't impact the PL so I don't get that jump tbh.
Caporegime
Who really cares. Their fanbase is tiny in reality. There are bigger clubs in the Championship than City in terms of real fans.
Juve got relegated in their scandal, Rangers got sent to the bottom tier. Could be anything but if proven true with the allegations and the Premier League do nothing it could be a massive stain on the league and investment moved elsewhere.
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Caporegime
Ok, so if City jumped to the ESL, how many teams would that make that supported it, 4?
Caporegime
If a team is demoted to the championship, what does that mean for promotion and relegation? Does 18th place get lucky and stay up?
If so you just know it will be The Ev
Soldato
I would have thought 3rd place would be an auto spot and 4 to 7 going into the playoffs for last promotion place. Notwithstanding the fact 18th place always guarantees safety in the Championship of course
, I'd say the bottom 3 would still go down. Its highly unlikely though.A fine and transfer embargo at most. At worst they'll strip them of the titles won but it wont go to second place, they will just note it as no winner - like cycling do with the years Lance won the tour.
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Soldato
Obviously it's different but the Melbourne rugby league team got done with years of salary cap breaches in 2010 which is essentially the same thing.
en.wikipedia.org
NRL Chief Executive David Gallop imposed the following penalties on the Storm later on April 22:
Melbourne Storm salary cap breach - Wikipedia
NRL Chief Executive David Gallop imposed the following penalties on the Storm later on April 22:
- The Melbourne Storm were stripped of their 2007 and 2009 premierships and their 2006, 2007 and 2008 minor premierships, which were withheld.
- An Australian sporting record total fine of $1,689,000 (composed of $1.1 million in NRL prize money which was re-distributed equally between the remaining 15 clubs, $89,000 in prize money from the World Club Challenge which was re-distributed to the Leeds Rhinos, and the maximum penalty of $500,000 for breaching the salary cap regulations).
- Deduction of all eight premiership points they had already received in the 2010 season, and barred from receiving any further premiership points (including points automatically awarded for a bye during the season) for the rest of the 2010 season.
- Further, the club were also ordered to cut their payroll by $1,012,500 to meet the 2011 salary cap by 31 December 2010;[4][5] failure to do so would have resulted in the club being suspended from the 2011 NRL season.
Soldato
This will rumble on in the courts for years. By then they’ll probably also have plenty to charge City with for the last 5 years they’ve not unearthed yet! 
I remember as a Blackburn supporter we were the first English club to do this and buy the best team but pretty much everyone else just did the same thing. Not sure football was so great before this though.