He did what he did in the name of religion, there needs to be some kind of a debate among the Muslim and wider community as to why these people feel that the Qoran gives the green light for murdering innocent people and treating non Muslim women with contempt. It's not just these extremist terrorists who kill, look at all of the grooming gangs that have targetted white girls.
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He did what he did in the name of religion, there needs to be some kind of a debate among the Muslim and wider community as to why these people feel that the Qoran gives the green light for murdering innocent people and treating non Muslim women with contempt. It's not just these extremist terrorists who kill, look at all of the grooming gangs that have targetted white girls.
Massive problems there now indeed. Open arms policy has ruined them.
If you have easily impressionable, disillusioned young Muslims who are then radicalised into believing in jihad against the immoral West is the only solution, couple that with the promise of honour and reward in the afterlife for their martyrdom and you have a gullible fool who will do anything for 'the cause'. It's not rocket science. The IRA didn't use suicide bombing because it was generally preached by the Catholic Church that people who kill themselves don't go to heaven.
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May I ask why. Theresa may as home secretary let more none EU immigrants from many muslim countries .... Than EU countries. This was completely under her control but she allowed it to happen. Many of the attacks have happened under a conservative government. And with them focused on austerity across all departments including police... Why do you trust them more?
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I meant people that may listen to them may be shut down as racist. Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm not a fan of any of those people, but if people aren't having honest discussions and playing hide the ball then that's where people will turn. Where are the rational voices in the middle?
Irrespective of whether I could or could not tell you on a public forum, it doesn't take much commonsense to realise this clickbait fool has no idea....However, then I came into this thread and quickly came to the same conclusion.....
Where did I say any of that? I said what happened when people wasn't a bunch of wimps.
But don't you worry none, that candle you light will protect you
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I think that's more of a cultural issue than a religious one. The grooming gangs tended to be of Pakistani origin for instance.
I mean it's not much different from a lot of Catholic priests being child rapists. Do we think all Catholics are responsible for that? No.
Where did I say any of that? I said what happened when people wasn't a bunch of wimps.
But don't you worry none, that candle you light will protect you
Yeah great, the 1970's and 80's when we had horrific football violence week in, week out.
for the reasons I already mentioned - I'm not going to elaborate much further as that is political discussion and belongs in another thread so will have to wait a while
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I mean China is a pretty big place and borders a lot of trouble spots.
Japan has had zero attacks though, wonder why that is?
"horrific" is was called fun. And after the fight they get together and buy each other a pint.
Trouble these days are men are wimps. Instead of action they go on a forum and moan\cry. If you can't protect yourself.
how are you going to protect your family? sing a song?
Yea, it's almost like the political ideology of the way the country is being run doesnt have much bearing on the level of terrorist attacks they endure....
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Sick of this left and right. I'm left and I hate the guy. Stop grouping everyone in the same category. I know someone who is racist and he is right wing.... Therefor anyone who hates this bomber is racist? See what I did there.
I used to hate Cameron and his government but I wish we had him back as at least he was centre ground. Now we just get theresa who has lurched to the right and is way to extreme for my liking.... But then I don't want to leave this country weak.
Well yesterday when I asked, what are you personally going to do about it, you replied
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you've now elaborated to what that was
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and described the football violence of the time
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So yes, I do think that is what you are advocating as a suitable response now.
These egotists are always in a race to be the first to send condolences and be the most gushing.
I suspect you already know about population differences and ratios but you readily ignore it to make a stupid point. And i also know you know that China also borders countries with huge Islamic populations. It's comparing apples with oranges. Political correctness needs to be chucked in the bin and people who hold your views have made this country in the long term fundamentally unsafe. At least China deals with these people without being PC and stops the problem from people far worse then it could be.