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Mantle...

oh well im thinking of upgrading cards anyways to a single option. I'll get the flash disk sorted just-in-case i chose an AMD again.
 
nuzik said:
What the hell is it, and yes ive googled, but im a simpleton.
Do i need it? Can i use it?
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nuzik said:
Brilliant and thanks for your helpful input, i'll be sure to make sure i take all the advice and useful information on-board.
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I am a bit concerned by your opening post as it is obvious you did not even bother to do a quick search of this forum, if you had you would have posted your question in the correct thread.
 
I did link my mantle thread in my first reply.

LtMatt said:
What is Mantle? Check this thread.

You can definitely use it with your setup and you will get a big fps boost and your gameplay experience will be improved greatly. So far Mantle works in two games, Battlefield 4 and Thief. Two further games are launching with Mantle support this month, Sniper Elite V3 and Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warfare. There is also a Mantle benchmark called StarSwarm. 20 other Mantle games are in development and will be released over the coming months. See the thread i linked above for further info.
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nuzik said:
here we go failed log!
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it failed on he hdmi audio driver, the rest should be installed? Mine always fails on installing the CCC for some unknown reason (win 8.1). I have to install it manually :rolleyes:
 
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Just so were clear on what mantle does.


#1, _Alatar_: GTXTitan @ 1346/1925, 4770K @ 5Ghz - DirectX FPS: Min 65.6 / Avr 95.8. Link
#2, Avenged7Fold: 290X @ 1300/1600, 4770K @ 4.5Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 71.4 / Avr 86.3. Link
#3, whyscotty: 780 @ 1398/1902, 4770K @ 4.8Ghz - DirectX FPS: Min 61.9 / Avr 86.1. Link
#4, Protoo: 290X @ 1244/1690, AMD FX-9370 @ 5.12Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 70.8 / Avr 84.3 - DirectX FPS: Min 38.1 / Avr 58.2. Link
#5, Gregster: GTXTitan @ 1306/1881, 3930K @ 5Ghz - DirectX FPS: Min 60.5 / Avr 84.2. Link
#6, tommybhoy: 290X @ 1175/1475, 3770K @ 4.5Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 59.7 / Avr 81.8. Link
#7, Protoo: 290X @ 1208/1498, FX-9370 @ 4.9Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 63.0 / Avr 80.3 - DirectX FPS: Min 36.0 / Avr 56.0. Link
#8, Kaapstad: 290X @ 1250/1625, 4930k @ 4.8Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 61.3 / Avr 79.4 - DirectX FPS: Min 61.9 / Avr 80.2. Link
#9, Humbug: 290P @ 1170/1430, AMD P-II x6 @ 4.17Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 60.5 / Avr 72.6 - DirectX FPS: Min 27.5 / Avr 49.1. Link
#10, ElliorR: 290P @ 977/1250, 4670k @ 3.4Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 56.1 / Avr 66.8 - DirectX FPS: Min 34.7 / Avr 60.7. Link
#11, Sugarhell: 7970 @ 1200/1600, 3770k @ 3.7Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 49.5 / Avr 65.5. Link
#12, Protoo: 7950 @ 1250/1751, AMD FX-9370 @ 4.8Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 46.5 / Avr 58.5 - DirectX FPS: Min 34.5 / Avr 50.8. Link
 
LtMatt said:
I can educate you Mr Chop. Here is what Mantle can offer. :)

i7 3770k 4.6ghz
MSI z77 mpower
Gskill sniper 16gb 1866mhz
Evga 780 ti sli Water Cooled
Intel 240gb
Seagate 2tb
hgst 1tb
seasonic 1050w


AVG FPS: 93.8
MIN FPS: 56.6


2700k@5Ghz
Asus P8Z77 WS
16 GB DDR3 2133Mhz
290P Crossfire Reference cooled
Samsung 250GB SSD
Mantle API

290P @ stock clocks 975/1250

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AVG FPS: 101.0
MIN FPS: 121.9


290P overclocked @1250/1625

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AVG FPS: 109.5
MIN FPS: 142.5


Lambchop, Mantle would be great for 120HZ users. Just look at those minimum fps. Who doesn't like high minimum and average fps? Everyone loves those and this is what Mantle users can look forward to. Lets not forget these ridiculously consistent frame times Mantle offers which makes DX11 look and feel like a chore in comparison.
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Call me Lamb, please :)

How do you get 121.9 fps min yet an average of 101.0 ? also, 142.5 min, and 109 average ??
 
Not sure where you would get worried from ;)

That is what mantle does, disregarding the nvidia results, i think mantle does great vs dx11 on amd.
 
Ian Evey said:
Not sure where you would get worried from ;)

That is what mantle does, disregarding the nvidia results, i think mantle does great vs dx11 on amd.
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Look at the old Thief thread to see how my dual gpu scores compare, theres none to compare to in the new thread. That is what Mantle can do. Still waiting to see some SLI 1080P scores in Thief since i posted my results. Asked several people and no one has provided any yet. Mind you looking at the 780TI SLI score, i can understand why. :D
 
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LtMatt said:
Look at the old Thief thread to see how my dual gpu scores compare, theres none to compare to in the new thread. That is what Mantle can do. Still waiting to see some SLI 1080P scores in Thief since i posted my results. Asked several people and no one has provided any yet. Mind you looking at the 780TI SLI score, i can understand why. :D
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You still didnt answer my question of how you can get higher minimums than averages.

To answer your current comment... I have youtubed nvidia benchmarks with a single 780 and its higher than those 780ti sli's.
 
LambChop said:
You still didnt answer my question of how you can get higher minimums than averages.

To answer your current comment... I have youtubed nvidia benchmarks with a single 780 and its higher than those 780ti sli's.
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Lets see it then. Perhaps it might encourage some more multi gpu results to be posted in the thread.

Thief was updated a month or two back and fps went down as a result as more image quality options were added afaik. Btw Alatar posted a score of 99 fps on a single card using disallowed tweaks/hacks before he posted that 95fps score so i highly doubt a single 780 is going to be beating that and a 780TI setup legitimately. But a win is a win right? Gotta be top of that leaderboard lol.
 
LtMatt said:
Lets see it then. Perhaps it might encourage some more results to be posted in the thread.

Thief was updated a month or two back and fps went down as a result as more image quality options were added afaik. Btw Alatar posted a score of 99 fps on a single card using disallowed tweaks/hacks before he posted that 95fps score so i highly doubt a single 780 is going to be beating that and a 780TI setup legitimately.
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what res were those benchmarks ran at ?
 
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