McDonald’s general discussion

Lopéz said:
I literally stand and watch them cook it in front of me... maybe it's different in the UK.

In Austria all burgers are cooked on the spot, there is nothing in the bin.

Doesn't a cheeseburger take less than two minutes to prepare or something? Assuming an empty grille with no queue obviously.
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Yes, its definitely different, they used to use the warming drawers just for breakfast and nuggets basically, but with the introduction of dozens or new items they moved to using these drawers, so they cook the burgers and put them in the warming drawer, then when an order for a cheeseburger comes in they toast the bun, dress it and then take a burger from the warming drawer, wrap it and pass it down. The problem in the UK is if 5 people order cheeseburgers, they dont then build 5, they do 1, then 1, then 1, then 1, then the final 1.

I worked at McDonalds for almost 15 years during school and uni and then as a manager afterwards and left just before this went live, but the information about it was already circulating internally.

Its basically the reason why you wait 15 minutes for a cheeseburger or for a big £20 order, its all made in the order they receive it into the kitchen and this is drive thru, app and kiosks.
 
keef247 said:
That just sounds like they make them work harder due to greed/gives the ground level staff more reason to not care/slack off...

I can't see in what world you think BK isn't better staffing wise, I see WAY more scumbags/slackers working at Maccers than BK, and IIRC when I've seen the wages pop up on job sites for either BK definitely pays more, so again more reason to not hate your life and slack/taking it out on the job/world... I also know people who've worked for Maccers and they hated it when we were younger...

BK always seems a lot cleaner, less chaos going on, they also don't have security on-site/fights, unlike Maccers... I've seen mad stuff happen in a Maccers in the day and night in a nice area haha! Never seen that in a BK. I've never gone into a BK and it been stupidly loud/rowdy/full of mouthy people swearing/kicking off etc... Nor ever one that needed security, Maccers on the other hand.

It's genuinely blown my mind you think they're the more consistent one, I'd say they've got it wrong WAY more times, and their food is wildly varied QC wise mate.
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That seems like an awful lot of waffle, to be honest, with no basis behind it or addressing the points being discussed. Nobody mentioned anything about people fighting in them etc, that's nothing to do with consistency. My local McDonald's gets far more customers through the doors than KFC and BK on a daily basis, and that's the same in town and city centres at night.

Plenty of other people on the thread agree that McDonald's is more consistent, so I don't know why it's blowing your mind.
 
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Ayahuasca said:
That seems like an awful lot of waffle to be honest with no basis behind it or addressing the points being discussed. Nobody mentioned anything about people fighting inside them etc, that's nothing to do with consistency.

Plenty of other people in the thread agree that McDonald's is more consistent so I don't know why it's genuinely blowing your mind.
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That's how I feel about your points, you're claiming because a company is all about greed and pay their employees less and use timers on cookers like any restaurant that magically the employees that I see standing around talking on their phones/being late with orders/sending everyone to window 2/to park, wont do that, and the crap food that's pot luck QC wise is somehow perfect all the time, when it simply isn't. Maccers is dirty full stop. I've never ever had an issue in any BK be it drivethru or inside, other than them forgetting to take the salad out - then giving me another full burger for free and not wanting the old one back.

Also BK charge a fair bit more so their food should be more consistent vs knocking out quid burgers to chavs and people off their face.
 
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keef247 said:
That's how I feel about your points, you're claiming because a company is all about greed and pay their employees less and use timers on cookers like any restaurant that magically the employees that I see standing around talking on their phones/being late with orders/sending everyone to window 2/to park, wont do that, and the crap food that's pot luck QC wise is somehow perfect all the time, when it simply isn't. Maccers is dirty full stop. I've never ever had an issue in any BK be it drivethru or inside, other than them forgetting to take the salad out - then giving me another full burger for free and not wanting the old one back.

Also BK charge a fair bit more so their food should be more consistent vs knocking out quid burgers to chavs and people off their face.

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I didn't make that claim at all.

While your personal experience of BK is nice to hear, it's far from the norm based on people's experiences on this thread.

I'd rather make my own and don't go that often, but then I don't feel like crap either, which I think is one thing that would massively skew my view of it if it did.

I also said earlier in the thread that I'd take a properly done XL bacon double cheese from BK over any of McDonald's burgers, but I've had some shockers from BK and can't remember ever having a sloppy Big Mac or quarter pounder where the bun is soggy etc.
 
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Ayahuasca said:
I haven't made that claim at all.

While your personal experience with BK is nice to hear, it's far from the norm based on peoples experiences in this thread.
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No worries mate, you just came across a bit like I was a mole for BK and lying, I would accept bribes from them but unfortunately not haha.

If you and others have a better experience, cool. I've yet to witness it, wont go there as it's tiny little portions of all day rewarmed junk that makes me feel rough after.

BK always gives you that signiture meat sweats that a proper bit of meat in excess should, which I've never had from a Maccers, and you seem to get a decent quality of food in terms of size/presentation. Never get that from Maccers and find myself buying extras which is just silly, then you add up what you've spent vs a BK and there's nothing in it.

Everywhere down here they're all next to each other, so I'll take a BK over that any day, but as @BUDFORCE said, I'd rather make my own.

I've nothing against you anyway :) You should just see the jobsworths at it down here is all Maccers wise, but I've yet to experience a bad BK anywhere in the UK I've been.
Maybe I'm super lucky, or it's the fact I'm 6ft8 that means they know I don't mess about haha, who knows!
 
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It's amazing the power of marketting and brand power though.

People flock to these places like sheep, and even believe (just look at this thread) that they are getting good for for a good price.

It's pretty sad really.

It's a shame because when you have an already struggling high street, these franchises will put local business under that cannot compete.

Fortuntely not all the country is like this, we spend a lot of time in North Norfolk and there literally isnt a McDonalds or for that matter any of those american chains there, the high streets are much better and the towns are nice places. There are independent firms that are providing better food and supporting the local economy. I am sure there are other parts like this. To be fair there isnt one near where I live either, but I live in the middle of nowhere so that doesnt really count.
 
keef247 said:
That's how I feel about your points, you're claiming because a company is all about greed and pay their employees less and use timers on cookers like any restaurant that magically the employees that I see standing around talking on their phones/being late with orders/sending everyone to window 2/to park, wont do that, and the crap food that's pot luck QC wise is somehow perfect all the time, when it simply isn't. Maccers is dirty full stop. I've never ever had an issue in any BK be it drivethru or inside, other than them forgetting to take the salad out - then giving me another full burger for free and not wanting the old one back.

Also BK charge a fair bit more so their food should be more consistent vs knocking out quid burgers to chavs and people off their face.
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Found the BK worker ;)
 
BUDFORCE said:
It's amazing the power of marketting and brand power though.

People flock to these places like sheep, and even believe (just look at this thread) that they are getting good for for a good price.

It's pretty sad really.

It's a shame because when you have an already struggling high street, these franchises will put local business under that cannot compete.

Fortuntely not all the country is like this, we spend a lot of time in North Norfolk and there literally isnt a McDonalds or for that matter any of those american chains there, the high streets are much better and the towns are nice places. There are independent firms that are providing better food and supporting the local economy. I am sure there are other parts like this. To be fair there isnt one near where I live either, but I live in the middle of nowhere so that doesnt really count.
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Username change to BudforceTheWiseOne
 
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Troezar said:
Found the BK worker ;)
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Lol if I worked for a fast food chain I'd have zero pride in my job against such evil companies, remember we've discussed this haha, let alone defend them in my spare time ;)

However IF I work for BK @Ayahuasca def works for Maccers ;) turf war!
 
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The one near me was recently renovated, changed the way they serve food as a result for the worse. Food all gets prepped as usual and rather than stick it in a bag (if it was for take-away) everything now goes onto a tray. They then take the tray to front where you're waiting and a different person then puts it in the bag. It's just a waste of time and paper (the paper bits on the trays), plus if the fries spill out whoever is putting it in the bag will scoop them up with their grubby hands and put them in the bag :D
 
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keef247 said:
Also BK charge a fair bit more
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They really do don't they? Caught a train up to Inverness from York a couple of weeks ago and thought I'd nip to the little BK inside York station.
I just wanted a plain burger. The server clocked up £4.60 on her till and I had to remind her I just wanted a plain burger, not a meal. She said almost apologetically, that was for a burger. I declined and opted to catch my train hungry.
 
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J.James said:
They really do don't they? Caught a train up to Inverness from York a couple of weeks ago and thought I'd nip to the little BK inside York station.
I just wanted a plain burger. The server clocked up £4.60 on her till and I had to remind her I just wanted a plain burger, not a meal. She said almost apologetically, that was for a burger. I declined and opted to catch my train hungry.
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Same as McDs unless you're just going for one of the little cheeseburgers
 
BenjiSayers said:
The one near me was recently renovated, changed the way they serve food as a result for the worse. Food all gets prepped as usual and rather than stick it in a bag (if it was for take-away) everything now goes onto a tray. They then take the tray to front where you're waiting and a different person then puts it in the bag. It's just a waste of time and paper (the paper bits on the trays), plus if the fries spill out whoever is putting it in the bag will scoop them up with their grubby hands and put them in the bag :D
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We got a new Maccies drive thru at the top of our street. I thought they were having a few teething problems getting the food to customers. All the order gets put on a tray.. brought to the front.. then put in a bag. It's so dumb and I thought they would revert back to the old method which is quicker. They're still doing it! And yes, you do end up with fries all over the tray. Have you seen anyone lift those fries off the tray and put them in the bag? Twice!
 
Normally get a breakfast roll after a night shift if I'm feeling hungry, apart from that Big Tasty is the best burger IMO when it's available. Alternatively a triple cheeseburger for £3 always does the job when need a quick but filling bite.
 
Lopéz said:
A barbecue and some mince isn't much use when you're hungry in a town centre or driving home from somewhere.

The barbecue and the mince are also produced by capitalist companies, and sold in a capitalist supermarket...
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Which is why you have to raise/slaughter your own cow. Mince it yourself, get out to the allotment to pick some fresh salad and then cook it over an open fire!
 
J.James said:
We got a new Maccies drive thru at the top of our street. I thought they were having a few teething problems getting the food to customers. All the order gets put on a tray.. brought to the front.. then put in a bag. It's so dumb and I thought they would revert back to the old method which is quicker. They're still doing it! And yes, you do end up with fries all over the tray. Have you seen anyone lift those fries off the tray and put them in the bag? Twice!
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It makes everything take longer, plus surely wastes more materials for them in all the tray sheets they must chuck out now. The only benefit to me is when the tray hits the front, I can see my order so know to get ready to pounce :D. They way they re-did my local one, means there is even less space to stand while everything takes longer as they made separate waiting room for all the just eat/uber eats drivers to wait in.
 
Martynt74 said:
Which is why you have to raise/slaughter your own cow. Mince it yourself, get out to the allotment to pick some fresh salad and then cook it over an open fire!
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We had a roast recently where the lamb, potatoes and veg were all our own :p

We do have a dozen cows now as well, unfortunately they're not going to end up on our table though they're just for fattening up and selling on, which is a shame!
 
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