Meanwhile in Hong Kong....

Mind you, I saw recently some new research work on pain perception, which, if it is correct, suggests that the 'political' pain felt by HKers and the mainland authorities alike is / would be biopsychologically real.

Which indicates tragedy?
 
ic1male said:
What happens in 2047 when the Basic Law expires? Will HK become totally Chinese then and lose its dollar, drive on the right, etc.
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StriderX said:
It cease's to exist.
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Honest answer? We don't know. No one knows. Not with any certainty.

We have theories. Most of them not good for HK citizens.

But we do know that China won't stop a good thing for itself unless it presents itself a problem. Or in short, we have had no indication previously that China will do anything drastic to change Hong Kong in its entirety if it remained as it was, since it was good for China to keep it so. That's however now even more uncertain since the protests, which if it stuck purely about the extradition law, China probably would have ignored. Now it's turned into something else, and China's attention is on Hong Kong. And the possibility of HK remaining mostly the same as it is now diminishes faster and further the longer HK has China's undivided attention.
 
I'm a bit ignorant in such matters but why isn't the same sort of thing happening in Macau? Doesn't it have the same SAR status as HK with own money, legal affairs, etc. Do they have a similar time limit when all that potentially comes to an end?
 
ic1male said:
I'm a bit ignorant in such matters but why isn't the same sort of thing happening in Macau? Doesn't it have the same SAR status as HK with own money, legal affairs, etc. Do they have a similar time limit when all that potentially comes to an end?
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Differing social structure I'd imagine. They're very much more conservative than the liberals of HK. So Macau tends to look towards hierarchical structure to know who to bow towards and who it can step on so to speak. As for if they have the same time limit, I've certainly not heard of it, but I too am not as close or familiar with Macau as I am with HK (since I have direct history and family with HK unlike Macau).
 
There is an acceptable (Chinese) tradition-conserving way for each to avoid their impasse, but I doubt they'll use it.
 
I had a quick look - Macau has its own Basic Law which came into effect at the Portuguese handover in 1999 and it also lasts for 50 years.
 
Has anyone been to Hong Kong in the last couple of months? I'm heading back for my 5th visit in a little over 3 weeks and while I'm not worried about keeping myself safe I'm not 100% sure what to expect compared to previous visits.
 
One of my kids just came back from there last week from a multi-week holiday. Overall largely the same, just don't head out and into the same areas when the idiots come out. So keeping watch on news, etc would be advisable.
 
Meddling-Monk said:
One of my kids just came back from there last week from a multi-week holiday. Overall largely the same, just don't head out and into the same areas when the idiots come out. So keeping watch on news, etc would be advisable.
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Ahh yes idiots, how dare they realise their time as an semi independent and semi free nation is coming to an end in their life time.

They’re going to be expunged anyway, might aswell make it difficult.
 
Meddling-Monk said:
One of my kids just came back from there last week from a multi-week holiday. Overall largely the same, just don't head out and into the same areas when the idiots come out. So keeping watch on news, etc would be advisable.
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The only idiots I'll keeping an eye out for are the police. If you can still call them police at this point.
 
That's the thing, if you are told you are going to be part of China, after having enjoyed the freedoms they have, you may as well go all out now!
 
Minusorange said:
Saw the video on youtube pretty messed up they're setting fire to a civilian and goes beyond protesting now
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Well protesting wont do anything to the Iron Grip of Xi, plus how can you be certain they aren't agent provocateurs? It's Orwellian China we're dealing with here, it's literally their MO.
 
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