Medieval 2 total war thread

[Pookie Bear]

I bet you got a serious ammount of money for 1,300 captures The most i've had was around that, got something like 15k for them all. But since they constantly attacked me throughout the campaign I executed them all.

What does 'Become a Vassal' mean?

What do people choose when you've captured a city? Occupy, sack or exterminate?

I executed them. Didn't even look at the money

Becoming a vassal doesn't quite work, but it basically means all your spare money goes to whomever you're a vassal of, and you're in permanent alliance (but it's broken).

And I've done a mixture of the three. Occupy if it's nearby my homelands and a similar religion, Sack if it's a troublesome large city and I expect problems from the locals, Exterminate when it's a city of a totally different religion many miles away.

 

[Sinque]

I executed them. Didn't even look at the money

Becoming a vassal doesn't quite work, but it basically means all your spare money goes to whomever you're a vassal of, and you're in permanent alliance (but it's broken).

And I've done a mixture of the three. Occupy if it's nearby my homelands and a similar religion, Sack if it's a troublesome large city and I expect problems from the locals, Exterminate when it's a city of a totally different religion many miles away.

I see... So basically you want to destroy a faction to it's last legs and make them your vassal to get all their spare money?

I'm still not too sure about what's the best things to do with cities when captured. Is there an online guide or something people use to find what it does?

 

[Tical]

Milan is in for a shock if they think I'm going to let them walk up this hill without peppering them with arrows

You should try the Ribalt cannons, I was really surprised at how effective they are. A danish army appeared out of nowhere from Imperial territory and attacked my town. I was extremly out numbered. They completely zerged my gates and walls, had a ribalt cannon battery aimed at my gates, my spearmen were already loosing so I let them rip. It decimated a few units and routed them just as my heavy infantry arrived from the walls, they disengaged a unit of peasants and sent them to my ribalt and they arrived just as they finished reloaded, needless to say a unit of peasants went from 50 to 15 at point blank range with 1 volley and routed. One of the best battles I had so far, even though I lost when they reformed.

 

[philstanbridge]

How are you guys getting on using the larger unit numbers? I've always been a stickler for using normal settings, because in the days of Rome there was a a lot of friendly fire (which turned out to be a bug). Only setting Normal unit sizes would prevent this. It looks like fun though to have many hundreds of more units on the battlefield..

 

[Pookie Bear]

I see... So basically you want to destroy a faction to it's last legs and make them your vassal to get all their spare money?

I'm still not too sure about what's the best things to do with cities when captured. Is there an online guide or something people use to find what it does?

Pretty much - but right now it's so broken you may as well not bother. Been hearing about the AI factions breaking Alliance, but not being able to break Vassallage and errr. is that a word? Anyway, it's stuffed.

No idea on a guide, I'm afraid. If in doubt, I always say, if it's fairly close to my capital, I'll hit option one, if it's a bit further away or a big fight to get it through many enemies hit option 2, and if it's a load of weirdos from another religion, hit option 3 and savour the screams.

How are you guys getting on using the larger unit numbers? I've always been a stickler for using normal settings, because in the days of Rome there was a a lot of friendly fire (which turned out to be a bug). Only setting Normal unit sizes would prevent this. It looks like fun though to have many hundreds of more units on the battlefield..

It's a bit of a pain having to manage your men when the enemy sallies forth from a siege, as your army is all over the place, but otherwise I like it.

It's much more impressive to say I killed 1200 men, rather than 300!

That sounds a bit bloodthirsty

 

[Sinque]

How are you guys getting on using the larger unit numbers? I've always been a stickler for using normal settings, because in the days of Rome there was a a lot of friendly fire (which turned out to be a bug). Only setting Normal unit sizes would prevent this. It looks like fun though to have many hundreds of more units on the battlefield..

I understand what you mean with the friendly fire but if the normal to large army sizes ratio is 1:3, for example, then in a normal size army you could kill 1 man and in the large army you could kill 3 and be equal. So in theory it shouldn't really make a difference.

I've also managed to create my perfect economy. Finally found out how to make profit balance with army growth From my old -20,000 campaign to this beauty:



All that cash is pretty

 

[philstanbridge]

Well done mate it takes a lot of planning to stay economical especially with the war mongering factions around you.

I've started my next campaign as Egypt - and I'm determined NOT to invade Jerusalem and see what happens. I'm going to play as passively as possible. The AI keeps asking me "politely" to take Jerusalem and sack it, but I'm holding back because i know the outcome of that Wonder what will happen. Whether a Crusade will be launched anyway - I'm building my empire very slowly in this one - I want to prosper before I start any wars. I have only just conquered a small village to the west of me, and it's turn 30 already. I have the best economy however in the game even at this stage, which is strange for a faction with just 4 settlements.

 

[Pookie Bear]

The AI keeps asking me "politely" to take Jerusalem and sack it, but I'm holding back because i know the outcome of that Wonder what will happen.

You might be surprised

I took Jerusalem as the Egyptians and the Pope only called a Crusade twenty turns on.......and then it was on Constantinople. Just depends on who asks and when, more than when you take something over....I think.

Good luck on the peaceful thing - should be interesting to hear how that pans out

 

[ljt]

I have the best economy however in the game even at this stage, which is strange for a faction with just 4 settlements.

Thats because all your neighboring factions are busy spending, building up big armies to assault you from all sides lol

 

[Sinque]

This is beyond a joke now. I can't spend my money fast enough! It's like a walk in the park I'm only at turn 73 aswell! I think i've got this game Mastered

 

[philstanbridge]

This is beyond a joke now. I can't spend my money fast enough! It's like a walk in the park I'm only at turn 73 aswell! I think i've got this game Mastered

What difficulty level are you playing? Does seem a tad odd that you're finding it so easy now.

 

[Sinque]

What difficulty level are you playing? Does seem a tad odd that you're finding it so easy now.

Medium Campaign and Medium Battles. Got 140,000florins now... :rolleyes

Edit: Bleh... 250,000 now. Pointless even playing, quitting that campaign.

 

[AndrewP]

Medium Campaign and Medium Battles. Got 140,000florins now... :rolleyes

Edit: Bleh... 250,000 now. Pointless even playing, quitting that campaign.

I got to that stage with England fairly quickly in my first game too. Bit more of a a challenge on H/H with Sicily, but:

Just had a cracking battle against the Hungarians, aftermath:

The Papal States were useless in the battle, mainly sat there, but they served their purpose - Hungary declared on both of us by attacking and is now excommunicated, time for a crusade! I also have 12 cardinals too thansk to converting Africa and the Middle East, might stick around for the Mongol invasion aswell.

 

[philstanbridge]

My plan to remain passive didnt last long!
Less than 50 turns in, a crusade is launched and I find myself on the end of a sharp Polish sword. Luckily I'm semi prepared and have sizable defences ready but I've had a spy laying in wait on the other side of the map and I've noticed the Moors are swiftly and sneakily approaching. I feel a war on two flanks imminent! I've also got a sizeable stash of cash (about 60,000) ready for the war fund. I think it's too easy to make serious amounts of money - it will probably be addressed in the patch, otherwise it will definitely be addressed by the modding team. The same thing was true with Rome IIRC.

 

[AndrewP]

I think it's too easy to make serious amounts of money - it will probably be addressed in the patch, otherwise it will definitely be addressed by the modding team. The same thing was true with Rome IIRC.

Yeah, aside from the first ten turns or so I've had enough money to have all my building queues full and at least one big army campaigning. Money's been a bit tighter (i.e. no 10k surpluses) recently, but I have been beating on the Turks Byzantines and Hungarians with a full stack each plus reserves and a full stack Northern Italian defensive field army.

 

[Tical]

I've just noticed something, why exactly does the pope not bother about other catholic factions attacking me? I've got full favor with the pope, yet when catholic factions break alliances with me and attack they loose no favor, and once my status with the palpal state, and favor with the pope, dropped after france attacked me on my own ground and I beat them.

 

[Sinque]

I don't like starting campaigns with loads of cities already. I prefer things like English, Scotland or Denmark. One or two towns. That way I have to build and take over places rather than just having loads already.

 

[fan_83]

does anyone know what does the various guilds do?

i think the explorer guild gives the units that you build more movement points adn the thieves guild gives you better security.. is that true?

 

[SiriusB]

Okay how do you guys get so filthy stinking rich?

I am being attacked by Scotland almost every turn and my army is getting smaller. I am also regularly getting attacked by France. The toad sucking pigs will attack me, get a beating, then ask for a truce. Then a few turns later they attack again. Just lost Rennes to them as I haven't any money for new units

The Pope thing just doesn't work. I am almost full favour with the Pope and no one else is higher other than people on the map I havent met yet. France doesn't lose any favour or anything

SiriusB

 

[Pookie Bear]

Guide here:
http://www.respawn.co.uk/content/view/416/70/

It has some useful points, especially for people playing their first Total War game.

Okay how do you guys get so filthy stinking rich?

I am being attacked by Scotland almost every turn and my army is getting smaller. I am also regularly getting attacked by France. The toad sucking pigs will attack me, get a beating, then ask for a truce. Then a few turns later they attack again. Just lost Rennes to them as I haven't any money for new units

The Pope thing just doesn't work. I am almost full favour with the Pope and no one else is higher other than people on the map I havent met yet. France doesn't lose any favour or anything

SiriusB

Money-wise, remember that roads and farming produce good money, so do the trading buildings - such as markets and ports. The first thing I build in any new territory is a road if there isn't one already. The guide I linked to has more advice.

As for the Pope, just keep pumping out churches and priests and he'll love you forever - especially when the Pope is from your faction