Medieval 2 total war thread

It's a massive game - you can play any other of the 15 factions including the Moors and Turks once you have completed a campaign as one of the startup factions - or you can just use the mod to unlock them all :D I'm not sure but I think the mod allows you to play as the Aztecs too!

I'm going to send my cardinal to various places to try and get his skills up then. Thanks for the advice. I have priests in most settlements at the mo, although I can tell it wont be long before France turns on me. Every turn they are trying to spy and bribe Caen which I have built up to a super fortress, even though we are still neutral to each other. Denmark has just launched an attack on my fleets and there is a Heretic up in the Scottish highlands. I will try and get some assasins to get their skills up by killing off some Scots :D Has anybody had any luck with assasins so far? The few I have employed are absolute rubbish - but those short movies are damn funny!
 
philstanbridge said:
Has anybody had any luck with assasins so far? The few I have employed are absolute rubbish - but those short movies are damn funny!
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I love the little movies :)

I have an assassin with a skill of 8 - he's quite effective at making people dead, but Inquisitors are still troublesome. If you really want to get them some practice, send them out killing rebel Captains - its a good way to get exp without provoking war, which you always have with rebels anyway :)

As for the Aztecs, I read that you can only contact them once you've built a particular type of ship and sent a diplomat out across the sea......although they do appear on one of the loading screens :)
 
I've really been enjoying this game so far. However, there are a few niggles regarding the AI that really should have been addressed between RTW and this game.

1. When an enemy has your city under siege and you attack them from within the castle, the enemy force is completely inept. They still stand there whilst you pelt them with arrows. Even worse now, when you're archers run out of arrows, they still just stand there. I play with the battle map timer off (a damn nice feature!), and this makes attacking a siege force boring as hell.

In every siege battle so far I've managed to walk all my forces out of the city/ castle and flank the enemy force without them apparently seeing me. Even when you attack them, they barely move. All it means is that to beat an army who has your settlement under siege, you just have to attack them first. They're complete sitting ducks.

On the other hand, when a siege force finally tries to take your city... they're far more brutal and efficient than in any of the previous series.

2. Generals bodyguard units have been nearly invincible when I've laid siege and attacked a city: There have been a number of situations where I've laid siege to a city that ONLY has 1 unit in it (being a General and his bodyguards). In these situations, the bodyguards are virtually invulnerable. Most notable was when I attacked one settlement with around 800 men. The General had 21 men. I bashed the door down and sent some spearmen in to clear up his horses: The spearman were completely destroyed VERY quickly. Not deterred I decided to go completely over the top and use the rest of my army to flank him from four sides (Army made up of crossbow men, spearmen, heavy infantry, light infantry, heavy and light cavalry). I won the battle, but the enemies one unit took out over 600 of my men: That really has to be a bug!

Overall, the game looks and plays very well, but it is just too similar to Rome for my liking. There's not much change between the two that I've seen so far. They've sorted out a few of the bugs, glitches and annoyances from Rome, but also introduced just as many to Medieval.
 
I love reading this thread. However, due to work/family commitments I won't get a chance to get stuck into this game until my Christmas vacation.

Just a quick question... how do you think this game will run on the below set-up...

AMD 64 4000+
2 Gig of Ram
XFX 7800GTX 256mb
74gb Raptor.

Many thanks to those who reply... and keep up the stories, they are totally engrossing and making my wait to play this game a little more easy!

Thanks again.
 
Should run okay on that rig I would have thought - I am running it on all max settings with no slowdown in 1680x1050.

x2 4800+
2GB Geil
xtx 1900 512
74gb Raptor
2407 Dell :D

On assassins, all mine are useless - even on weak merchants their chance of success is less than 20%! Let along enemy captains or other assassins! I can't imagine how to level these up.

I killed a couple of heretics with my Cardinal and now he's got 7 out of 10 piety - hoping he's headed for Rome.

I found a couple of annoying things with the battles;

- I had one siege where my ram was destroyed so I couldn't get in - I tempted them out and had a lot of them outside mostly cavalry, but when I tried to follow them in through the gate when it was open, my cavalry would slow down and almost wait for the gate to close then try and get through! I ended up using all my arrows trying to kill the defenders who were waiting in the city centre area. Then I just had to withdraw as they wouldn't come out.

- I find that I can't get all the men in any one unit to attack at the same time. For example when I run a cavalry charge against a unit, they will crash into them and then only about 10 will actually engage anyone, the rest will stay back - its damn annoying.
 
miracleboy said:
On assassins, all mine are useless - even on weak merchants their chance of success is less than 20%! Let along enemy captains or other assassins! I can't imagine how to level these up.
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If its anything like RTW then what you do is. Cntl S then attack and if you miss or die you reload it :p Keep doing it until you finally get the kill :p

I mainly did this because i only ever had 1 or 2 assasines in RTW because i couldnt be arsed to train them up :o
 
I know someone has already asked this in another thread, but he didn't seem to get much of a response... so I'll have a go here!

Does anyone have a link or a decent scan of the Map you receive with the super duper version of this game?

I'm asking only as I'm having to wait until Christmas before playing this thing, and thought I would spend the next 6 weeks planning my invasion!!!!
 
Hellsmk2 said:
1. When an enemy has your city under siege and you attack them from within the castle, the enemy force is completely inept.

2. Generals bodyguard units have been nearly invincible when I've laid siege and attacked a city. That really has to be a bug!
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1) I don't do sieges if I can help it - I prefer to just sit it out untilthey come out for me, so not had the honour of dealing with that kind of problem.

2) That must be a bug! Once I get spearmen into any cavalry, especially from the flanks and rear, they go down very quickly.

Must dash, I have Germans to slaughter.
 
Pablo72 said:
I know someone has already asked this in another thread, but he didn't seem to get much of a response... so I'll have a go here!

Does anyone have a link or a decent scan of the Map you receive with the super duper version of this game?

I'm asking only as I'm having to wait until Christmas before playing this thing, and thought I would spend the next 6 weeks planning my invasion!!!!
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Had a suspicious looking box with the collector's edition's retailer's label on arrive today for my birthday at the weekend, so I can get you one then. There are plenty of images around online with the campaign map on and the starting locations.

I read that the patch is still ~2 weeks away though :(.
 
General Bodyguard's live up to their namesake. They are incredibly tough - but they arent invincible by any stretch of the imagination. Don't forget to check the stats on them before you fight (if you can) because you're not the only one increasing your' virtues. They will be too. I've just attacked Edinburgh and sacked the city - eventually. I killed two sets of General's Bodyguard with spear men from the front and rear.
 
Things went a little haywire for me there. No matter what I do, the Pope won't reconcile - then I checked his stats....he was French! No wonder. I'd destroyed his civilisation about two turns into his tenure as Pope.

No other Catholic nation would make peace with me....at one point I fought off three sieges on me in the space of three turns (one of whom was the Hungarian King with exactly the same name as my King - Philip the Wrathful. So I killed him) - things were seriously touch and go for a while and then....yay, I get a message saying the Crusade has five turns before it runs out......which I survive. The Crusade ends and I can breathe again.

My super-assassin has missed three kills in a row - one was the German Faction Leader, but come on, he should be leaving corpses in his wake - one of them was a dodgy princess who was trying to get off with my Heir too - lord knows what would happen if she got her claws in him. He got all pious though and married some bird called Samantha Carpenter....wasn't she in a band?

Oh look, now the Spanish are liniing up across the Pyrenees (well, so my spies tell me), the Germans have four full stacks near Bern and the Danes are looking at me funny over their bacon sandwiches. So I spend two or three turns consolidating and then, joy of joys, the Pope dies! In the same turn my diplomat next to Rome pegs it as well! So now I have to send a new one over......but at least the new one reconciles me....just before telling me he hates my guts! Oh look, he's German. If he calls a Crusade on me, I'm gonna abandon the city and let them have it.

Got three decent armies in Eastern France and two on the Spanish border. I seriously need a break. And it seems like my turns were way off - it's only turn 112.

Uhhhhh....sorry for the running commentary, I just enjoy typing out my struggles - and if anyone has any questions, let me know :)
 
There's no denying this game is damn good, even with the bugs. It's so vast and there seems to be so much going on. The new campaign engine is brilliant. Has anyone been on the receiving end of the Mongol Invasion yet? They are the richest new faction on the roster and they are steam rolling everywhere!

I was laying seige to Inverness until the last turn (about 70) - then I got trounced by a ambushing scottish army. I cant believe I lost the battle! The AI was almost perfect. I lost my General and all the remaining men were captured and executed!! Now I'm being attacked from every angle and I am seriously losing ground. I am actually finding it tough going against the computer!
 
I ended up watching telly afte rmy last post. I've not encountered the Mongols yet, but I sent a diplomat from Marseille in a fleet with 14 ships to find them and make an alliance before I bump into them :) I've got HRE, Poland, Hungary and Denmark in the way, so it's not too bad.

My biggest issue now is where to expand. I can go through Central Europe, or the Iberian Peninsula. Spain is filthy, filthy rich (I had 25k florins it said Spain was top and had a 59% in brackets :eek: ) and owns most of the peninsula and North Africa. Central Europe is four different nations squashed between me and the Mongols. So, do I leave the buffer and go for the big rich guy - Spain must be my equal money- and strength-wise, or do I clear out the buffer and risk coming up against the Mongols.....are they really that fearsome? Maybe the Pope will be more likely to leave me alone if I only squash one country.....maybe I'll go mad and try both and get squashed :)

Choices, choices.....tonight will be fun :cool:
 
AndrewP said:
Had a suspicious looking box with the collector's edition's retailer's label on arrive today for my birthday at the weekend, so I can get you one then. There are plenty of images around online with the campaign map on and the starting locations.

I read that the patch is still ~2 weeks away though :(.
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Cheers for responding, Andrew. Maybe I should stop being lazy and have a look around the net myself!

Let me know what the collectors edition is like.

Cheers matey.
 
Skidmark said:
I ended up watching telly afte rmy last post. I've not encountered the Mongols yet, but I sent a diplomat from Marseille in a fleet with 14 ships to find them and make an alliance before I bump into them :) I've got HRE, Poland, Hungary and Denmark in the way, so it's not too bad.

My biggest issue now is where to expand. I can go through Central Europe, or the Iberian Peninsula. Spain is filthy, filthy rich (I had 25k florins it said Spain was top and had a 59% in brackets :eek: ) and owns most of the peninsula and North Africa. Central Europe is four different nations squashed between me and the Mongols. So, do I leave the buffer and go for the big rich guy - Spain must be my equal money- and strength-wise, or do I clear out the buffer and risk coming up against the Mongols.....are they really that fearsome? Maybe the Pope will be more likely to leave me alone if I only squash one country.....maybe I'll go mad and try both and get squashed :)

Choices, choices.....tonight will be fun :cool:
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I'm not quite at that stage yet having been attacked on two fronts by France and Scotland. But I think I will try and invade Spain - and make sure my alliances are strong towards the East. I've got my hands full at the moment - the French have layed seige to Antwerp and Caen and I have just lost a full stack in Inverness :o
 
I had something annoying happen last night I have no idea what it was though! The HRE had just taken Antwerp from me and I thought they would move on Bruges, so I moved an army up from Caen and one turn left them just south of Bruges in a forest.

I wasn't really paying attention, then the next turn the army was gone - actually disappeared from the map, not just hiding in the forest! I know that it's actually gone because I click on another commander and then cycle through the list - the ghost army was the only one with a catapult in - it's just disappeared.

It's really annoying because it was a massive army and now Bruges will get sacked - and I have no idea where it went - is this a bug or something?
 
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Yeah I think I had a similar thing happen last night. Had an army in Wales laying seige and the next turn it was gone. Could've sworn it wasn't attacked or anything. Guess your post confirms it abit.
 
It's possibly a bug but it could also be a feature - did the army have a general attached to it? Could it have been bribed? I'm sure I've lost two princesses in the same way - I move them swiftly down the map into France and within turns they have both disappeared. I have to say that all my French settlements are being badgered constantly by spys and assasins as well as heretics and diplomats and if you zoom in you can actually see them trying to bribe their way in. It's chaos actually. It is quite hard keeping track. I dont quite understand this thing with the Pope though - one minute France were attacking me, the next turn they ceasefire and are ex-communicated. It's bugged to hell and back but its still fun.
 
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