MegaUpload has been shut down

madindehead said:
Oh yeah, you definitely cannot stop piracy. I never said they could

What a I said was, you can REDUCE piracy which is caused by music/games/movies whatever not being available.

There are plenty of people willing to pay for their entertainment, and plenty more who would pay if the service was better. I'm not saving all piracy would stop. But it might be reduced. iTunes definitely hasn't stopped music piracy. Steam hasn't stopped game piracy. But I bet they have converted some pirates who always had the money, but didn't like the hassle.
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Verymuch agree, piracy will allways exist in some form or another.

But what good content providers need to be doing is stop creating extra reasons for piracy (the most common, that it is free), DRM, Price, Access rights, Release dates, atifical viewing guidelines, unquenchable greed, colossal ignorance of the changing market etc the list goes , with new things being thrown up every other month.
 
peterattheboro said:
I think you'd be surprised.

The majority of this forum will download stuff off the net.

Even though no one will admit it....
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Considering how much money the games industry is making, I can't say I believe it. Piracy is a minority, and it's mainly like Wolfe below says, an issue in countries like China and Russia.

If piracy was that big of an issue, would Harry Potter have made as much money as it did? Would games companies like Activision still be in business? Nah they wouldn't. The fact that MW3 made $1bn in sales in the first 16 days shows, if you make a product people want, they will buy it, and as Gabe Newell said, "piracy is hardly ever a money issue, but a service issue. Provide people a good service and they will buy your product."

Wolfe777 said:
Luckily people on benefits aren't a majority either - yet a small minority does a hell of a lot to ruin it for the honest workers in terms of tax, etc.

And I think you'll find that in much of the developing world, such as China, pirates WILL be the majority.


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A minority can ruin it, but it doesn't effect things as much as people may think. They count each individual download as a lost sale. How many times have you downloaded something, there's been a problem with it, so you have to download it again? Or maybe you lost your data on your HDD due to a mechanical fault so you had to download it again? Or maybe, even, you downloaded a game/CD to gauge what it was like, and then bought it after because you enjoyed it?
Stating 1 download = 1 lost sale is very far fetched, and even though MW3 had 3,650,000 downloads illegally, you can't count every single 1 of those as lost money, because it's not the case.


Me personally, I have downloaded music in the past, but because I downloaded the music I found I liked a band, so in turn I went to go and see them live and bought their CD's, I probably spent more money going to see them live and money on their merchandise, than I ever would have done on some CD's alone.
 
5UB said:
So basically any uploading website will get taken down?
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I suspect the ones that at least make some pretence of legality won't have any problems. For example mediafire is basically the same thing but makes it very easy to share files with easy links and no registration etc, I've used it fairly frequently for legal sharing.
 
Aedus said:
Considering how much money the games industry is making, I can't say I believe it. Piracy is a minority, and it's mainly like Wolfe below says, an issue in countries like China and Russia.

If piracy was that big of an issue, would Harry Potter have made as much money as it did? Would games companies like Activision still be in business? Nah they wouldn't. The fact that MW3 made $1bn in sales in the first 16 days shows, if you make a product people want, they will buy it, and as Gabe Newell said, "piracy is hardly ever a money issue, but a service issue. Provide people a good service and they will buy your product."
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I don't think games on this forum will be heavily downloaded. Mainly because people play online and most pirated games won't let you do that. But movies and tv shows will be heavily downloaded. Most people I know on this forum are guilty of it.
 
gothic_hobbit said:
I get 'Internal Server Error'.
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When I said "back" I meant it in the loosest of terms :p

It seems to be having some issues and it will probably take a while to get back to normality..

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peterattheboro said:
I don't think games on this forum will be heavily downloaded. Mainly because people play online and most pirated games won't let you do that. But movies and tv shows will be heavily downloaded. Most people I know on this forum are guilty of it.
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That's still a minority, though.
Grossing figures from movies over the past few years show that people are still prepared to pay for something, if you make something they want to buy or see. People may pirate crap films, because at the end of the day they just watched it for the sake of it, if they didn't pirate it they wouldn't watch it either way. I think companies make piracy an excuse for churning out bad stuff "Oh we didn't make x amount of money because of piracy" when it's not the case, if it were Avatar wouldn't have grossed nearly $2.8bn.
 
sorry for possibly getting the wrong end of the stick here, but isnt this the equivalent of a criminal gang using the big yellow storage company to hold a bunch of stolen goods, the police finding out, then shutting down big yellow storage without letting anyone get their stuff back

if my analogy is right, when you put it like that i expect non internet savvy people will understand how stupid it was to take down megaupload

also, isnt there something in the terms and conditions that says stuff like your not allowed to use megaupload for pirated stuff and that they take no responsibility for the content on their site, because it must be impossible to check who has and hasnt got the legal right to distribute every single file thats uploaded to megaupload so i dont see how they could be responsible for that kind of thing.

OR, am i just spouting rubbish because ive only had 7 hours of sleep in the past two days?
 
peterattheboro said:
I don't think games on this forum will be heavily downloaded. Mainly because people play online and most pirated games won't let you do that. But movies and tv shows will be heavily downloaded. Most people I know on this forum are guilty of it.
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You just have to look at the PC Games forum to see that there's tons of people happily admitting to pirating games, even with the mods efforts to remove any promotion of it.
 
RomanNose said:
Good to see US law applying internationally. Europe should have just have told them to "*** off".
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Glad someone else has picked up on this. I posted earlier asking how the US seem to think they have some sort of global jurisdiction, and no-one has enlightened me on why they're being allowed to assume the role of "World Police". I'm hoping that some countries will still have the balls to tell them to do one.

I hope there are protests in NZ if they try to extradite these people. They should be tried under NZ law and in a NZ court FFS (if indeed, they are suspected of wrongdoing and there is evidence to support a case!) - either that or sent back to their country of origin, not extradited to the US!

It's not as if the US isn't unpopular enough around the world without kicking this off as well. Alienate the population of your allies as well as your enemies, nice work!
 
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