Mercedes Benz and AMG Owners

The issue for me with the 63 range is they are not quite mediocre enough for my tastes. The E53, however, looks like a wonderful blend of compromise. But you need a mid 2020 onwards to get MBUX :(
 
An AMG C63 for example, is a car ‘engineered by AMG’. A CLA or similar with a couple of AMG badged add-ons, is not a car engineered by AMG.

T’is but clever marketing.
An A250 Engineered by AMG is a specific model / trim that was designed to sit as a Golf GTI rival under the original A45.

It's not a weird way of describing an AMG Line, the car was literally named 'A250 Engineered by AMG'
 
I would take a 43 over a 63 to be honest. Just my opinion but I want the 4wd of the 43.

The 43 is in my opinion the sweet spot. It has a nice wail on full chat and has more than enough power in the E class, it doesn’t compete with the v8 though. The E63 is 4wd by the way
 
The issue for me with the 63 range is they are not quite mediocre enough for my tastes. The E53, however, looks like a wonderful blend of compromise. But you need a mid 2020 onwards to get MBUX :(

What do you mean by “not quite mediocre enough for your tastes?” You mean it’s too lairy?
 
Yes, it's wasted on me :D

Haha to be fair it’s the sort of car not many people would generally be interested in. Super saloons are pretty outrageous and a niche market. I was more interested in the odd phrase you used
 
Look at my car history - pick a good range of cars, pick the middle of the road best compromise option within it, it's what I do :D

Never the dullest in the range, never the best one :D
 
An A250 Engineered by AMG is a specific model / trim that was designed to sit as a Golf GTI rival under the original A45.

It's not a weird way of describing an AMG Line, the car was literally named 'A250 Engineered by AMG'

I stand by what I said. Merc added some extra trim, different wheels and suspension. No more than BMW used to do with M-tech kit. However they didn't then call their cars '318i Enginered by BMW M Power'.

Like I said it's just marketing. They didn't even appear to improve the car that much according to autocar...

'It’s sad to report then that despite the AMG suspension changes to the A 250 Engineered by AMG it doesn't feel that different to a more humble A-class, the brittle nature of the ride of a more typical A-class being preserved and even amplified by the firmer AMG set-up. There are all too frequent crashes into the cabin, and it’s anything but quiet and refined in this department.'
 
Fuel wise, what was the difference out of interest?

I couldn’t give you a fair comparison unfortunately as I used the E43 to commute but now I work from home I drive the E63S for fun so I tend to drive it more enthusiastically. If I recall I got about 26mpg as a long term average on the E43 and am getting 18mpg on the E63S currently as a long term average. That said, the 63 may get better over time as it only has just under 5k miles on it
 
Last edited:
No, we’ve had very little snow where we are

Just wondered how well 600bhp and summer tyres would cope. We’ve had some here on and off, but my car doesn’t come out to play until at least March. I know people who would insist on winter tyres for such cars, but unless you’re in the Highlands with loads of snow, I wouldn’t see the need.

I was just correcting the idea that it "was just an odd thing to say re the car in question" - it wasn't an odd thing to say, it was the literal name of the car, whether you feel MB should have called it that or not :p

Yes, fair enough, I can see how that originally came across. I wasn’t picking on the poster... just bumping my gums re Merc’s continued attempts to dilute their AMG brand :D
 
Just wondered how well 600bhp and summer tyres would cope. We’ve had some here on and off, but my car doesn’t come out to play until at least March. I know people who would insist on winter tyres for such cars, but unless you’re in the Highlands with loads of snow, I wouldn’t see the need.

I would presume quite poorly as the tyres are pretty wide, 265 on the front and 295 on the rear
 
Pre COVID I tried a colleague’s RS6 with summer tyres in snow in Norway and I thought it handled it really well. Traction was great and you could make rapid progress on very poor roads as long as it wasn’t so deep that you ploughed the road with the front splitter. Certainly not the boosty, wheel spinning nightmare I thought it might be with all that power.

That was with 285 section MPS4S tyres all round. Shame I won’t find out with mine. That said my S5, S3 were all good in the past few winters here.
 
Back
Top Bottom