No, I'm not capping frame rate. Presumably it's a coding and streaming issue. The poor GPU utilisation is a common topic on other flight sim fora.
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 announced.
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Is the view that the crappy frame rate is not our PCs, rather the ability of MS to stream?
That would explain a few things.
Caporegime
The streaming issue is exactly the problem, I've seen this running on a friend's PC which is relatively low end, and when it's working properly it's mind blowing, whilst that's very much hit and miss at the moment, what I've seen when it's behaving is enough to make me seriously think about getting it.
A few weeks/months from now I'm fairly sure this will be long forgotten and we'll be marvelling at a next level simulator which, from what I've seen when it's working even on relatively low end kit, it is.
Soldato
What did your friend manage to do to get good performance that everyone else isn't?
Associate
Streaming shouldn't have any effect on framerates. The most obviously issues with streaming are objects and textures appearing at lower resolution than they should, or noticeable 'popping-in' of stuff.
But it's streaming in almost everything: photogrammetry, weather, aircraft models / cockpits. If the data being received is much less than what it should be your GPU will have less to render, hence lower utilisation. The GPU can only work with what it's given.
Soldato
But it should then be able to increase framerate? Less to render means more framerate for the same utilisation.
On a separate note, most reviewers seem to making videos walking around looking at animals not the actual flying.
Soldato
The game seems to be working fine for me now, full game detail, weather clouds, buildings etc all seem to be there, and it's running fine for me.
Yup, I noticed that ... including walking to the summit of Mt. Everest !
Soldato
Thanks for this, did notice it appeared to use 25 of my 32.
By the way the fenix has been ported over and seems to work great.
Just to add, in some cases it appears to be hitting 100% on 4090 particularly with TAA , dlss and frame rate generation drops that to about 70%.
It’s a weird game, significantly better than 2020 but not in a way that’s easy to pinpoint.
A lot of the stock aircraft have some hopeless bugs that make you wonder how they got past QA.
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As far as content is concerned, Asobo very much went for quantity over quality.
Same here, it's been running really well for me too this weekend. What a contrast to last week!
I took a flight from London City airport with the Inibuilds A320 with live weather and it was as smooth as butter on ultra settings at 4K. I think the performance may have actually been better than 2020.
Had a go of this on Steam Deck last night (via Xbox Cloud Gaming). Took the Cessna between two local airfields, then another flight down the Thames from London City to Heathrow. Finished with a balloon flight in the Alps. Everything worked well.
I'll give career mode a go on my PC tonight I think. Time to dust off the HOTAS.
I'll give career mode a go on my PC tonight I think. Time to dust off the HOTAS.
Soldato
Yup just need to work out what I'm doing.
I watched a YouTube video yesterday about how to setup the navigation in the Cesna 175, and the guy basically sums it up at the end, it's easy to learn how to control and fly the plane, but doing that and flying it properly are complete opposite ends of the scale.
The other thing is the game isn't 100%, so it's hard for me because I don't know what I'm doing enough to know wether it's user error or the game, but for example apparently the send to avionics (I'm guessing that uploads your flight plan to your navigation system) doesn't do anything, and it just goes to some default pre set plan it creates when you choose the departure and destination points.
Like I went into free flight, picked departure and destination, in the Cirrus G2 which has the GPS navigation, followed the navigation to the first couple of points, then it literally vanished, and the AP in navigation mode started flying the aircraft in some random direction, with the heading marker almost the opposite direction to where I was supposed to go.
And I've used that before for a couple of trips (Stansted to Rotterdam for example) and it worked fine the whole way.
So I dunno......
I managed to remove the radar in the top left though.
Although in career mode the big bright blue gates are shown in the sky, and it super imposes the destination as well, which is completely unrealistic, and I don't think you can turn it off. Also the big blue gates don't seem to match the flight plan in the navigation system, especially because some of the airfields are literally just small grass strips etc, so wouldn't have proper landing patterns but it tries to force one on you regardless, but then doesn't penalise you for flying straight in.
I had a mate who was properly into FSX, knew how to navigate using beacons and used to buy these like navigation cards, that are used in real life, have those sat on his desk while flying with paper and pencil. Personally for me that's a bit too far, but would be nice to be able to fly modern aircraft with gps properly.
I watched a YouTube video yesterday about how to setup the navigation in the Cesna 175, and the guy basically sums it up at the end, it's easy to learn how to control and fly the plane, but doing that and flying it properly are complete opposite ends of the scale.
The other thing is the game isn't 100%, so it's hard for me because I don't know what I'm doing enough to know wether it's user error or the game, but for example apparently the send to avionics (I'm guessing that uploads your flight plan to your navigation system) doesn't do anything, and it just goes to some default pre set plan it creates when you choose the departure and destination points.
Like I went into free flight, picked departure and destination, in the Cirrus G2 which has the GPS navigation, followed the navigation to the first couple of points, then it literally vanished, and the AP in navigation mode started flying the aircraft in some random direction, with the heading marker almost the opposite direction to where I was supposed to go.
And I've used that before for a couple of trips (Stansted to Rotterdam for example) and it worked fine the whole way.
So I dunno......
I managed to remove the radar in the top left though.
Although in career mode the big bright blue gates are shown in the sky, and it super imposes the destination as well, which is completely unrealistic, and I don't think you can turn it off. Also the big blue gates don't seem to match the flight plan in the navigation system, especially because some of the airfields are literally just small grass strips etc, so wouldn't have proper landing patterns but it tries to force one on you regardless, but then doesn't penalise you for flying straight in.
I had a mate who was properly into FSX, knew how to navigate using beacons and used to buy these like navigation cards, that are used in real life, have those sat on his desk while flying with paper and pencil. Personally for me that's a bit too far, but would be nice to be able to fly modern aircraft with gps properly.
Soldato
had a quick look last night, doesnt look much differnt to the last one.. same bad AI buildings that our out of place ie random skyscrapers and apartment blocks in the middle of the countryside.. Same grand canyon chasms that drop 1000s feet into ground where there should be roads and railways etc.
Is anyone finding dark/night scenes a little washed out? I have an OLED monitor and these scenes are pitch black in 2020. However, they have the effect of an old LCD monitor in 2024, it almost looks greyish rather than solid black.
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Soldato
For what it's worth (nothing), if I was building a system right now, it would have 64gb of ram.
Not just for this game, but in general.
It's just the way the (PC) world is.