*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

GaryTheSnail said:
If people don't move then they are going to be left behind in terms of security and there will be holes all over the place in the OS.
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Has someone told MS this? there are holes all over the place in 10/11 now never mind when updates stop. I think I'd rather use an unsupported 7 than an unsupported 10/11 it is going to be a massacre when support stops.
 
GaryTheSnail said:
So you didn't move over to 11 right? you stayed with 10? or maybe Windows 7? :)
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I've not moved my main work or home PCs from 10 to 11 yet, as especially on my work PC I'd be less productive.
(I also skipped a lot of the early Windows 10 versions - I think 1803 was about when I moved from Windows 7, at least at that stage Windows 10 was more or less useable)

I've got a laptop with Win 11 on (purely to try), and for the small amount of work I do use it for, I installed Explorerpatcher to restore the Windows 10 style taskbar.
Installing 3rd party software to make 11 look like 10 seems to defeat the point of me running 11 though?
 
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GaryTheSnail said:
You kind of got that with every OS there's always someone creating a 3rd party tool to look like another OS.
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If you wanted to, then yes.

But for every other version of Windows, it's never been needed. Behaviour or appearance was tweaked slightly, but the options were always there to put it back to something close to resembling the previous version.


The list of dislikes for me for Windows 11 far outweighs the likes:
- Forced taskbar grouping (I keep going on about it, but when you have multiple copies of the same app running, then seeing the title bar for the app rather having to click on it and then get the grouped menu is much easier)
- New right click menu (why does it have icons only for some actions, but not for everything?)
- Tabs in windows Explorer? I get that people wanted these, but it feels like a step backwards - (I have a big monitor, so why wouldn't I have 2 windows open side by side and see everything at the same time)
- Start button that moves if left in the centre - you can't build muscle memory for something that moves!
- Start menu is essentially redundant (partly due to the above), but may as well just press win key and then start typing to search
- Replacing control panel with the new Settings window. Great that it got an overhaul, but now that more stuff is in here, it's even more stuff that can only be done one view at a time - you can't open multiple settings windows. Single Task interfaces work fine on a mobile phone or tablet, or for casual users, but I don't need it dumbing down.
 
Have anyone on the windows marketing team actually used a desktop computer for an extensive amount of time? Have they looked at the more successful OS'? Why aren't they realizing how terrible 11 is?
 
Evatron said:
Have anyone on the windows marketing team actually used a desktop computer for an extensive amount of time? Have they looked at the more successful OS'? Why aren't they realizing how terrible 11 is?
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I'm sure many people are fine with surface-level settings. This is a tech forum so most of us will be more inclined to want to use more options, which now take extra steps to access.

I do find it annoying, but I use the latest Windows 11 for work and don't have any problems. That being said, I mainly work from inside WSL.
 
My workplace will be rolling out new laptops Q1 this year and the talk of Windows 11 has not even come up at all to my knowledge. They are sticking with windows 10. I believe roll outs happen every few years so I guess during this cycle we will have to consider whether to skip 11 and straight to 12 or not.
I just think these days I don't have the time in my life both at home or at work to beta test an OS.
 
Mesai said:
I'm sure many people are fine with surface-level settings. This is a tech forum so most of us will be more inclined to want to use more options, which now take extra steps to access.
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Makes me wonder if they could implement an opening installation option asking ones familiarity with windows. Just to pre enable a control panel and my computer shortcut that still uses file explorer.

Then the other option is smartphone mode with candy crush and Facebook tiles all over the place just as the people wanted.
 
Armageus said:
If you wanted to, then yes.

But for every other version of Windows, it's never been needed. Behaviour or appearance was tweaked slightly, but the options were always there to put it back to something close to resembling the previous version.


The list of dislikes for me for Windows 11 far outweighs the likes:
- Forced taskbar grouping (I keep going on about it, but when you have multiple copies of the same app running, then seeing the title bar for the app rather having to click on it and then get the grouped menu is much easier)
- New right click menu (why does it have icons only for some actions, but not for everything?)
- Tabs in windows Explorer? I get that people wanted these, but it feels like a step backwards - (I have a big monitor, so why wouldn't I have 2 windows open side by side and see everything at the same time)
- Start button that moves if left in the centre - you can't build muscle memory for something that moves!
- Start menu is essentially redundant (partly due to the above), but may as well just press win key and then start typing to search
- Replacing control panel with the new Settings window. Great that it got an overhaul, but now that more stuff is in here, it's even more stuff that can only be done one view at a time - you can't open multiple settings windows. Single Task interfaces work fine on a mobile phone or tablet, or for casual users, but I don't need it dumbing down.
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Some of those will annoy the **** out of me granted, but some of them you mention I feel we've already kind of been through that with win10 where they changed and moved things around, to the point where I literally just search by typing as can never remember where/how to get to it buried in menus.
The forced task bar grouping is lame af if that's how it is. Start button moving sounds annoying and a weird design choice. Tabbed explorer.... are you saying you cannot have two windows side by side as an override to the tabs? That's unacceptable and can't be the case?
 
jaybee said:
Tabbed explorer.... are you saying you cannot have two windows side by side as an override to the tabs? That's unacceptable and can't be the case?
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I might be wrong (as I only tried the explorer tabs briefly the other day), but I'm pretty sure the right click "Open in new window" option has now been change to "Open in new tab".

You can still open a new windows with Win+E, or clicking on a folder icon e.g. on your desktop though.
 
Over time, I’ve gotten used to win 11 more and more, to the point I’ve even had a few thoughts of trying the start menu in the middle again on a 4k monitor, as i tend to have a window in the middle as focus, and going all the way to the corner feels like a lot of travel and I’m finding myself thinking that the middle location would be closer.

that being said, like above there a couple of things which time and time again I think ‘why’ and wish I could change it simply. Those being the taskbar grouping and right click menu icons. cut copy paste should be vertically listed with the icons beside them.
 
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