*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

Armageus said:
Yay Windows updates again broke ExplorerPatcher (Black Screen with cursor and no desktop) :(
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One of the problems I keep banging on about with 10/11 - sooner or later people are going to run into a situation where updates break, change or reset something they depend on.
 
Rroff said:
One of the problems I keep banging on about with 10/11 - sooner or later people are going to run into a situation where updates break, change or reset something they depend on.
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Fortunately it's not a machine I depend on (just my laptop that I use for remoting into work etc, so purely a limited testbed for 11), but again highlights the issue with having to use third party workarounds to restore taskbar functionality.

I've uninstalled ExplorerPatcher and installed the StartAllBack trial, but again don't see why I should have to pay (even if it is only $4.99 or whatever), just to have an environment I can use to work. Windows 10 was tolerable, Windows 7 was more or less perfection. Windows 11 out of the box is unusable for me. :(
 
StartAllBack adds way more than just a couple of features though, and as it's something you use 100% of the time the PC is on, it is well worth the few quid it costs, and will outlive Windows 11 because you can bet Windows 12 will introduce some more bs in its start menu out of the box too.
 
I haven't had any issues with any Windows for a very long time to be honest and since Windows 7 we have been getting solid operating system every single time. I have been doing day 1 upgrades for the longest of times (as we have been getting free upgrades for a while now) without any issues.
It only takes few minutes to get used to new interface of W11. I don't ever imagine myself going back to Windows 10 on one of my personal computers.
 
mrk said:
StartAllBack adds way more than just a couple of features though, and as it's something you use 100% of the time the PC is on, it is well worth the few quid it costs, and will outlive Windows 11 because you can bet Windows 12 will introduce some more bs in its start menu out of the box too.
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Even though this was meant for Windows 10 i feel it's going to apply to Windows 12's start menu. :)
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Rroff said:
One of the problems I keep banging on about with 10/11 - sooner or later people are going to run into a situation where updates break, change or reset something they depend on.
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Funny you should mention this as on my Windows 10 machine I all the sudden started getting the audio cut out bug over HDMI audio with AMD drivers when more then two applications use the audio device for example playing a game while starting or watching a Youtube Video or switching tabs and applications.

I right click on the desktop and start the AMD Adrenalin software and a message pops up saying that it cant start due to Windows updating the driver and I remembered that I stupidly enabled Windows driver updates a while back and Windows have installed an older buggy driver. I start O&O shutup 10 to disable driver updates and surprise Windows has re-enabled some of the settings in the program proberly from other Windows updates. So even when you disable things Windows update can just change or reverse it... even if it ends up breaking things. (The last few AMD drivers fixed the audio bug which I had to reinstall)

I also had Jedi Fallen Order downloading the other day when I went to work and though oh great it'll be done when I come home, I finish work and return home to find the computer on the desktop with nothing running so I check the machine and about an hour after I left for work the computer decided to run Windows updates and restart itself.

Its not only some 3rd party apps that **** up your system its Microsoft themselves and I dont want to sound like a broken record but I never had this **** with Windows 7.
 
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slipd said:
Would an app repair fox that? - might try it tomorrow. I only disabled it so that I could play a game :o
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Can confirm an app repair, doesn't fix it... So I did a System Restore from a week ago and now I'm all sorted.

I say I'm all sorted: I had to sign out of Google Drive to get that working again and reinstall Chrome and Firefox. They were the only issues. That I know about so far :cry:
 
apatia77 said:
I haven't had any issues with any Windows for a very long time to be honest and since Windows 7 we have been getting solid operating system every single time. I have been doing day 1 upgrades for the longest of times (as we have been getting free upgrades for a while now) without any issues.
It only takes few minutes to get used to new interface of W11. I don't ever imagine myself going back to Windows 10 on one of my personal computers.
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I agree, I see no reason to go win10 rather than 11, I never had a single problem with it, I use Linux on most of my systems and my main system now runs ChromeOS Flex(yes really) but I'd have no issue going back to 11 if I had to.
 
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G J said:
I also had Jedi Fallen Order downloading the other day when I went to work and though oh great it'll be done when I come home, I finish work and return home to find the computer on the desktop with nothing running so I check the machine and about an hour after I left for work the computer decided to run Windows updates and restart itself.

Its not only some 3rd party apps that **** up your system its Microsoft themselves and I dont want to sound like a broken record but I never had this **** with Windows 7.
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Unfortunately that is called USER ERROR!

You left your PC unatteded for hours when you at work, you should know when Patch Tuesdays is expected Windows Update to download and install updates.

When Windows 10/11 detected no activity movements from user for hours and a dialog will pop up attempt to alert user with time set when Windows will restart.

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I was left my PC unattended for hours 2 weeks ago and dialog popped up on my screen with time set to 12:56pm, I reacted to it and clicked Another Time to cancelled restart.

You would had thought of manually set your PC active hours before you left for work so your PC will not restart at active hours OR you would had thought to used Chrome Remote Desktop app on Android/iOS to logged on your PC from work to checked Jedi Fallen Order download progress completed and then put your PC to sleep or shutdown. Or download ShutdownGuard to put tool in taskbar tray to prevent Windows Update restart your PC. It worked very well for people with 3D printers that take few months to printed complex 3D models.

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GitHub - stefansundin/shutdownguard: :skull: Prevent Windows from shutting down. (UNSUPPORTED, see issue #1)

:skull: Prevent Windows from shutting down. (UNSUPPORTED, see issue #1) - stefansundin/shutdownguard
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GaryTheSnail said:
If that was the case users would just never reboot if they could get away with it. It's scheduled for a reason!
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Rightly or wrongly, that's up to the user. It's their machine and entirely up to them how they use it. If it's a corporate machine I'd accept it but on my own hardware I DECIDE when the machine restarts.
 
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