*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

hdpcgamer said:
I don't think it's teribly bloated but for those running on 8gb of ram, it could have an effect. I'm on 32GB but even when I had 16GB, it was still snappy.
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Yeh I'm currently on 16gb while my 64 is being rma'd and I cant tell the difference lol, maybe less is worse, but to be fair my folks laptop is 4gb and it runs fine there too, surprising
 
wiiija said:
Yeh I'm currently on 16gb while my 64 is being rma'd and I cant tell the difference lol, maybe less is worse, but to be fair my folks laptop is 4gb and it runs fine there too, surprising
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TBH, can't say I have noticed any difference moving to 32GB and there were probably only a couple of games where I noticed ram slowly creeping up to 16GB.

I'm surprised it runs fine on 4GB as I'd thought that would be borderline :)
 
Sure it doesn't have soldered plus a spare dimm slot? my folks Lenovo is soldered but also has a spare slot, worth checking, stick 8gb in it and you'll be golden
 
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wiiija said:
Its not terribly bloated anyway is it? nothing stock causes any issues on my systems personally.
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Bloat is in the eye of the beholder so it depends but Microsoft have a history of added more 'stuff' to each release of Windows. With each new version there's always more services, more tasks, more software, and more background processes.

Nothing really that causes 'issues' per se as Windows is pretty stable these days and what's not an issue for you maybe an issue for someone else: E.g I personally don't want Windows trying to auto discover proxy settings when i know i don't use one, i don't want it connecting to the cloud just in case i may want to sync my settings with another device, i don't want it trying to setup no existent WiFi, sending data back to the customer experience improvement program, updating maps, setting up mobile broadband, a pen, a touchpad, family safety, and the other 100+ things i disable.

I don't want it doing those things because i don't want to waste CPU cycles, RAM, and electricity on things for Microsoft's benefit and because I'm a firm believer in reducing attack vectors.

On the plus side i hear MS are planning to make Windows 12 a lot more modular, something I've been saying they should've done for years.
 
Thats fair enough, everyone has their own opinions, I use a local account on my main machine but thats for a different reason, I cant say the other things annoy me enough to worry about them but each to their own.
 
Windows isn't bloated but if you run on 8GB RAM you may have issues? May not count as bloat but if you need that much RAM just to use the OS then MS need to look at their code 'cos it sounds like poor programming to me (as a non-dev). 4GB should be sufficient to run a reasonably responsive OS. If you need bells & whistles for games that's a different matter.
 
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GaryTheSnail said:
What bloat is in windows 11?
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It maybe slightly different with 11 as I've only really bothered debloating 10 but for me personally there are these services'...
AllJoyn Router Service
AVCTP service
BitLocker Drive Encryption Service
CaptureService
Cellular Time
Clipboard User Service
Contact Data
Connected Devices Platform Service
Connected Devices Platform User Service
Connected User Experiences and Telemetry
Credential Manager
Data Sharing Service
Data Usage
Delivery Optimization
Device Management Wireless Application Protocol (WAP) Push message Routing Service
Distributed Link Tracking Client
Diagnostic Execution Service
Diagnostic Policy Service
Diagnostic System Host
Downloaded Maps Manager
File History Service
GameDVR and Broadcast User Service
Geolocation Service
Intel(R) Telemetry Service
Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
IP Helper
IP Translation Configuration Service
Natural Authentication
NetBT
Network Connectivity Assistant
MessagingService
Microsoft (R) Diagnostics Hub Standard Collector Service
Microsoft Cloud Identity Service
Microsoft Windows SMS Router Service.
Microsoft Passport
Microsoft Passport Container
Offline Files
Offline Files Driver
Parental Controls
Payments and NFC/SE Manager
Peer Name Resolution Protocol
PNRP Machine Name Publication Service
Print Spooler
Printer Extensions and Notifications
Problem Reports Control Panel Support
Program Compatibility Assistant Service
Radio Management Service
remote Desktop Configuration
remote Desktop Services
remote Desktop Services UserMode Port Redirector
Retail Demo Service
Phone Service
Shell Hardware Detection
Spatial Data Service
SSDP Discovery
Storage Tiers Management
System Guard Runtime Monitor Agent
System Guard Runtime Monitor Broker
TapiSrv
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Touch Keyboard and Handwriting Panel Service
User Data Storage
UPnP Device Host
WalletService
WebClient
Windows Cloud Files Filter Driver
Windows Connection Manager
Windows Error Reporting Service
Windows Insider Service
Windows Mobile Hotspot Service
Windows Mixed Reality OpenXR Service
Windows Perception Service
Windows Biometric Service
Windows Update Medic Service
Windows Camera Frame Server
Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar
Windows Remote Management (WS-Management)
Windows Search
Xbox Accessory Management Service
Xbox Live Auth Manager
Xbox Live Game Save
Xbox Live Networking Service
These scheduled tasks...
\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser
\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\PcaPatchDbTask
\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\ProgramDataUpdater
\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\StartupAppTask
\Microsoft\Windows\Autochk\Proxy
\Microsoft\Windows\BitLocker\BitLocker Encrypt All Drives
\Microsoft\Windows\BitLocker\BitLocker MDM policy Refresh
\Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\Consolidator
\Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\UsbCeip
\Microsoft\Windows\Device Information\Device
\Microsoft\Windows\Device Information\Device User
\Microsoft\Windows\Diagnosis\RecommendedTroubleshootingScanner
\Microsoft\Windows\DiskCleanup\SilentCleanup
\Microsoft\Windows\DiskDiagnostic\Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector
\Microsoft\Windows\DiskFootprint\Diagnostics
\Microsoft\Windows\DiskFootprint\StorageSense
\Microsoft\Windows\ExploitGuard\ExploitGuard MDM policy Refresh
\Microsoft\Windows\Feedback\Siuf\DmClient
\Microsoft\Windows\Feedback\Siuf\DmClientOnScenarioDownload
\Microsoft\Windows\FileHistory\File History (maintenance mode)
\Microsoft\Windows\Flighting\FeatureConfig\ReconcileFeatures
\Microsoft\Windows\Flighting\FeatureConfig\UsageDataReporting
\Microsoft\Windows\Flighting\OneSettings\RefreshCache
\Microsoft\Windows\InstallService\SmartRetry
\Microsoft\Windows\Input\LocalUserSyncDataAvailable
\Microsoft\Windows\Input\MouseSyncDataAvailable
\Microsoft\Windows\Input\PenSyncDataAvailable
\Microsoft\Windows\Input\TouchpadSyncDataAvailable
\Microsoft\Windows\International\Synchronize Language Settings
\Microsoft\Windows\License Manager\TempSignedLicenseExchange
\Microsoft\Windows\Location\Notifications
\Microsoft\Windows\Location\WindowsActionDialog
\Microsoft\Windows\Management\Provisioning\Cellular
\Microsoft\Windows\Maps\MapsToastTask
\Microsoft\Windows\Mobile Broadband Accounts\MNO Metadata Parser
\Microsoft\Windows\NetTrace\GatherNetworkInfo
\Microsoft\Windows\NlaSvc\WiFiTask
\Microsoft\Windows\PI\Secure-Boot-Update
\Microsoft\Windows\PI\Sqm-Tasks
\Microsoft\Windows\Power Efficiency Diagnostics\AnalyzeSystem
\Microsoft\Windows\Printing\EduPrintProv
\Microsoft\Windows\PushToInstall\Registration
\Microsoft\Windows\Ras\MobilityManager
\Microsoft\Windows\Registry\RegIdleBackup
\Microsoft\Windows\SettingSync\BackgroundUploadTask
\Microsoft\Windows\SettingSync\NetworkStateChangeTask
\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\FamilySafetyMonitor
\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\FamilySafetyRefreshTask
\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\ThemesSyncedImageDownload
\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\UpdateUserPictureTask
\Microsoft\Windows\Speech\SpeechModelDownloadTask
\Microsoft\Windows\Storage Tiers Management\Storage Tiers Management Initialization
\Microsoft\Windows\SystemRestore\SR
\Microsoft\Windows\TextServicesFramework\MsCtfMonitor
\Microsoft\Windows\TPM\Tpm-HASCertRetr
\Microsoft\Windows\TPM\Tpm-Maintenance
\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\UpdateModelTask
\Microsoft\Windows\UPnP\UPnPHostConfig
\Microsoft\Windows\WCM\WiFiTask
\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\QueueReporting
\Microsoft\Windows\Wininet\CacheTask
\Microsoft\Windows\WlanSvc\CDSSync
\Microsoft\Windows\WwanSvc\NotificationTask
\Microsoft\Windows\WwanSvc\OobeDiscovery
\Microsoft\XblGameSave\XblGameSaveTask
Then there things like BingNews, BingWeather, GetHelp, Getstarted, MicrosoftOfficeHub, People, ScreenSketch, Windows.Photos, WindowsAlarms, WindowsMaps, ZuneMusic, ZuneVideo, all the Xbox stuff and the list goes on. In fact it's easier to list what should not be removed IMO.
 
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