*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

[MagicBoy]

Im amazed that my board supports TPM because its about 3yrs old now.

TPM modules have been around for 10+ years. Work have been using them for Bitlocker keys since Windows 7. The Sandy Bridge (2nd gen) desktops with generic MSI H61 boards had it back in 2012 , work paid £6 as an optional extra for the TPM module that plugs into a motherboard header. Some of the machines are still around and after a BIOS update to enable UEFI, running Windows 10 with TPM and Secure Boot happily.

PTT (firmware TPM) turned up on enterprise Haswell (4th gen). I've got a couple of older laptops used for testing that it works on fine. Just took the manufacturers a while to enable it for consumer, enthusiast kit.

 

[random_matt]

More concerned about bloatware, wonder how much they will take out.

 

[MagicBoy]

More concerned about bloatware, wonder how much they will take out.

They took loads out of the Windows 10 image to make it smaller. Then install it again on demand from the Store when you first log in!

 

[thenewoc]

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-i...te-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements/

PC Health Check App
With these minimum system requirements in mind, the PC Health Check app was intended to help people check if their current Windows 10 PC could upgrade to Windows 11. Based on the feedback so far, we acknowledge that it was not fully prepared to share the level of detail or accuracy you expected from us on why a Windows 10 PC doesn’t meet upgrade requirements. We are temporarily removing the app so that our teams can address the feedback. We will get it back online in preparation for general availability this fall. In the meantime, you can visit our minimum system requirements page here to learn more.

I think this app was only looking for CPU's that have fTPM capability so it was giving false information to those that have dTPM with an older non listed CPU. Also of note in the above article is the intention to commence testing soon of Intel 7th gen and AMD Zen 1 CPU's.

Basically for those with dTPM 2.0 I think they sent us down a rabbit hole with that PC Health Check app.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

Apparently the only checks it does is in the installer. If you copy the install.wim from a windows 11 ISO to a Windows 10 ISO it installs without the extra checks.

It's also been tested with a VM image from Hyper-V - cloned that image to a drive and booted.

Both above works.

 

[thenewoc]

Apparently the only checks it does is in the installer. If you copy the install.wim from a windows 11 ISO to a Windows 10 ISO it installs without the extra checks.

It's also been tested with a VM image from Hyper-V - cloned that image to a drive and booted.

Both above works.

I'm not referring to W11 insider builds as they are known to have been loosened up on spec requirements.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

I'm not referring to W11 insider builds as they are known to have been loosened up on spec requirements.

 

[Danny75]

I think they sent us down a rabbit hole with that PC Health Check app.

Seems so. Just a few hours ago:

Microsoft has temporarily pulled the star-crossed PC Health Check App while it works on addressing user feedback. The Windows team says the app will return in time for the Windows 11 launch later this year.

https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-pc-health-check-app-gone/

 

[thenewoc]

Seems so. Just a few hours ago:

Funny how someone on github was able to come up with a better checker in less than 24 hours yet MS with all it's resources have retired the app until the Autumn.

 

[james.miller]

Funny how someone on github was able to come up with a better checker in less than 24 hours yet MS with all it's resources have retired the app until the Autumn.

Hopefully it's more to do with MS being undecided on such strict hardware requirements. Probably not though

 

[Phil2008]

Do you still need to enable TPM(PTT) in the bios If you have a TPM compatible cpu?

 

[darael]

Has anybody with a computer which doesn't support TPM or Secure Boot tried to clean install this build from a USB stick?

I did what I did for the previous build - copy Windows 10 files to USB stick, then copy the Windows 11 install.wim file across. This worked for the last build, but it doesn't seem to now.

 

[Armageus]

Has anybody with a computer which doesn't support TPM or Secure Boot tried to clean install this build from a USB stick?

I did what I did for the previous build - copy Windows 10 files to USB stick, then copy the Windows 11 install.wim file across. This worked for the last build, but it doesn't seem to now.

"Win 11 Boot And Upgrade FiX KiT v1.5" apparently works

 

[scubes]

Has anyone actually gamed on this yet ?

 

[Phil2008]

How stable is this?,, Im thinking about having a play with it in a few hrs time, and might keep it on my main system if it isn't buggy?

 

[watercooledman]

Has anyone actually gamed on this yet ?

Yes works all the same as win 10

 

[Deleted member 77746]

Has anyone actually gamed on this yet ?

It's just windows 10 with a new theme.

 

[m4cc45]

It's just windows 10 with a new theme.

Not quite there are a few nice gamer features, namely AutoHDR and DirectStorage, so there are some reasons to upgrade - might take a while before companies use the features to there best abilities but you can say the same about any previous OS.


M.

 

[chroniclard]

Has anyone actually gamed on this yet ?

Played some apex legends, working fine.

 

[willhub]

I've installed the dev preview.

Trying to personalise it and adjust theme, after changing colour it freezes, minimising window and maximising seems to fix it, or closing and re opening.

Taskbar at the bottom doesn't seem to be very transparent, can't adjust that.

And I seem to have a dilemma with the start menu, how do I organise and sort things? It seems like the new start menu might aswell just be a big list? Feels like it's going to push me to fill my desktop with icons.