*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

I think MS will drop the TPM requirements or relax them at least. They do have an history of rolling back their ideas......See original Xbox One idea.
 
darael said:
Are there are any downsides to using the firmware TPM? I ask as I'll probably end up doing this.
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I asked that a few pages back as I don't know much about TPM at all, and AStalay had this to say, so it seems firmware TPM is not that bad at all as most will rarely update bios or clear CMOS.

AStaley said:
The advantage of a dTPM is that the keys should persist after a BIOS update or CMOS clear. With the fTPM the keys would be lost and you have to reinitialise the fTPM. Personally I’ll get a dTPM just for convenience.
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Very quickly tried this new build. I'm not a fan of the new Settings app because I feel that it now takes twice as long to navigate through the settings now - I found it nauseating changing one setting, going back, scrolling down to the next, etc.

If anybody can find where the setting for what is called "Background Apps" in Windows 10 is, I'd be grateful. Otherwise it's going to be even more of a drag disabling those background apps one at a time.
 
darael said:
Very quickly tried this new build. I'm not a fan of the new Settings app because I feel that it now takes twice as long to navigate through the settings now - I found it nauseating changing one setting, going back, scrolling down to the next, etc.

If anybody can find where the setting for what is called "Background Apps" in Windows 10 is, I'd be grateful. Otherwise it's going to be even more of a drag disabling those background apps one at a time.
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It is that kind of thing which made the difference between Vista not being that well received and Windows 7 people mostly more positive about. MS doesn't seem to know the meaning of quality of life experience.
 
PC777 said:
I asked that a few pages back as I don't know much about TPM at all, and AStalay had this to say, so it seems firmware TPM is not that bad at all as most will rarely update bios or clear CMOS.
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Here you go, this is from the governing body for TPM standards.

basically Firmware TPM is going to be fine for most use cases.

Discrete TPM is designed to be resistant to hardware hacks including to the TPM itself and hardware it interacts with - because of this DTPM is typically used in security critical operations such as biometric scanners for user identification in the military etc





 
The latest statement Microsoft put out is interesting.

They said they are very confident any pc with Intel 8th gen or newer or ryzen 2000 or newer will meet the tpm requirements but for other CPUs that are not actually sure. Between now and launch they will be working to identify which older CPUs can perform the firmware TPM functions and if they pass they will be added to the supported CPU list - the first CPUs they will be testing is the Intel 7th gen and Ryzen 1000.

So there is still hope that people with older systems will get W11 if it passes the tests Microsoft will do, so stop buying TPM 2.0 modules off eBay at $200 cause you may regret it
 
LOL helpful when trying to install the latest version from within the leak version:

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Think this is because Pro edition was missing from my new ISO
 
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I made an ISO from the uup script thingy and then ran another script which removes the tpm checks. Now installed on peasant spec CPU with a local account. :p

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Just ran into my first real annoyance. Usually apps can add their own entries to the right click menu in Explorer but now this has been "modernised", it takes an extra click to bring up the old style menu. Presumably apps will need updating to integrate with the new menus?? Seems like pure laziness or just spite on Microsoft's part. :/

edit: no easy way to open an admin command prompt/powershell from Explorer either. Opening it and then typing a full path to a folder (or even copy/pasting) is beyond tedious.
 
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Quite like the new sound control panel/settings pages but its not playing well with my Asus Xonar U7, never liked it anyway, time for an upgrade. :cry:
 
I update my bios every time there is a new one out.

I don't plan and never have used any encryption features on windows which a tpm would have provided.

So hopefully for people like me that flash often using ftpm hopefully won't be a problem.
 
marc2003 said:
Just ran into my first real annoyance. Usually apps can add their own entries to the right click menu in Explorer but now this has been "modernised", it takes an extra click to bring up the old style menu. Presumably apps will need updating to integrate with the new menus?? Seems like pure laziness or just spite on Microsoft's part. :/

edit: no easy way to open an admin command prompt/powershell from Explorer either. Opening it and then typing a full path to a folder (or even copy/pasting) is beyond tedious.
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Are you able to access the MS store and install the new Microsoft Command Prompt program? I think that adds an option to right click menu for 'open command prompt here'.
 
Windows Terminal is already built in and present on the "classic" context menu but still no easy way to open as as administrator (that I can see :p)
 
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