Typing into the search bar would be an additional step for many of my uses - I rarely use search unless trying to find something I don't use often that MS has hidden away.
*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***
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Typing into the search bar would be an additional step for many of my uses - I rarely use search unless trying to find something I don't use often that MS has hidden away.
Soldato
I dont like the fact they are moving network options away from the right click on the network icon on the taskbar, pita at work because I'm usually changing IP regularly, probably going to look at NetSetMan to cover that though.
Context menu's, don't like the way they've changed it.
Context menu's, don't like the way they've changed it.
There is some really daft things as well - like if you go to stuff like Run or the Resource Monitor app or a shortcut to it you can't pin it to start, but if you search for it you can pin it from there...
On the plus side it does seem to spend more time at under 1% background CPU use, though still get sporadic tasks elevating CPU activity at times, but not as bad as 10 which rarely was truly idle in the background. Though my HDD activity light is flashing frequently even when the system should be idle unlike 7 where it might blink once every few minutes if the system was idle...
On the plus side it does seem to spend more time at under 1% background CPU use, though still get sporadic tasks elevating CPU activity at times, but not as bad as 10 which rarely was truly idle in the background. Though my HDD activity light is flashing frequently even when the system should be idle unlike 7 where it might blink once every few minutes if the system was idle...
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For now yes, but how long before they integrate that into the new 'Settings' menu.
A lot of other guys at work use NetSetMan as you can save the profiles etc for the different networks..
Maybe not Windows 11 specific, but I encountered a very frustrating situation recently. I installed Windows 11 for a young relative, little did I know that when they signed into their Microsoft account some software would stop working - for example Firefox and Chrome (Chrome was installed later on as a diagnostic). Whenever the likes of Firefox or Chrome were attempted to be opened, they immediately closed. It turns out their Dad controls their account and what they can do to some extent - after a lot of swearing and faffing around, we removed the child as a family member from their Dad's account and all worked as you'd expect. Thankfully the child is old enough to know better on the computer, but it was still frustrating.
Weirdly, Firefox/Chrome/etc loaded just fine on Windows 10 when signed into the same Microsoft account.
Weirdly, Firefox/Chrome/etc loaded just fine on Windows 10 when signed into the same Microsoft account.
You can have some issues with this with corporate linked accounts, etc. as well, some of it hard to undo.
On another note Windows 11 network performance (probably anti-malware stuff involved) isn't great, possibly driver related but I've had it on more than one setup - maxing out at mid 80MB/s and often as low as 72 when transferring large files over gigabit LAN, while my Windows 7 and Windows 10 pro systems have no problem getting over 100MB/s - often close to the max.
EDIT: Noticing there is far too many little inconsistencies in the OS as well - mousing into a program via the task bar using the preview there is some kind of disjointed flow to the process I've not quite narrowed down what it is but about half the time it doesn't quite flow, same with drag and drop - Windows 7 it just flowed from your mouse origin smoothly, often in 11 it doesn't quite pick up the drag and drop object centred to your mouse click and there can be a slight lack of responsiveness in the pick up which just feels meh when you are doing it repeatedly as part of a workflow (part of that seems to be deferred loading in of the specific object that you are dragging - for the first 1-3 frames it just uses a placeholder...).
EDIT2: Further annoyances - I increasingly end up searching for the old control panel options to actually do stuff but the shortcuts to it in settings seem to change/move/disappear as you change things for example Network and Internet used to have a related settings option ("More network adapter options.") that took you to ncpa.cpl now it has gone entirely with other options taking its place... W T F, went to pin the control panel to start and again can't do it directly from the application icon, but if you search for it in search you can pin it to start there...
Absolute clown show.
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I really find some of the changes incomprehensible - like changing the screenshot behaviour with the Print Screen key from the long term default, which most people will instinctively use, to instead launch the Snipping Tool... fortunately it is still an option you can change, but then you have no proper way (other than macros/shortcut hotkeys) to change the hotkey to launch the Snipping Tool which otherwise is launched via a kind of awkward Win key + shift + S... (and the Snipping Tool itself can be a useful thing).
Which then lead me to an interesting bug, trying to pin the Snipping Tool from Search to the taskbar to try and open its folder location to create a shortcut, using shift+right mouse menu and selecting create shortcut results in this screen then a reset of Windows (you can't select an option):
You can't drag the Snipping Tool icon from most locations like Search, Start screen, Taskbar, etc. to another location to create a shortcut, but you can drag it off the All Apps list to do so.
Again absolute clown show involved in developing Windows these days.
Which then lead me to an interesting bug, trying to pin the Snipping Tool from Search to the taskbar to try and open its folder location to create a shortcut, using shift+right mouse menu and selecting create shortcut results in this screen then a reset of Windows (you can't select an option):
You can't drag the Snipping Tool icon from most locations like Search, Start screen, Taskbar, etc. to another location to create a shortcut, but you can drag it off the All Apps list to do so.
Again absolute clown show involved in developing Windows these days.
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Don
Think that's because it's a crappy UWP or store app now rather than a native Win32 app. Which is another issue in itself, that they take several milliseconds to load just because of all the bloat needed
I keep wondering what's going to happen when 10 reaches EOL, i think most people accept the uptake for 11 hasn't exactly been stellar with, depending on where you look, it being used by 25-35% of people two years after launch.
So are MS going to do a Windows 7 and extend support for 10, are they going to change tack or are they just going to forge ahead with whatever this design philosophy is.
So are MS going to do a Windows 7 and extend support for 10, are they going to change tack or are they just going to forge ahead with whatever this design philosophy is.
Soldato
Hopefully they'll bring 12 out and things will be better, then people can jump from 10 to 12 and miss 11 entirely...
From the leaks that have come out (obligatory pinch of salt) it doesn't seem to be going in that direction.
To be fair about the only thing i picked up so far was the floating taskbar and some icons, the time, and search bar at the top a bit like macOS.
Windows 11 2024 Update: What's new and why it's not Windows 12
The Windows 11 2024 Update is coming soon
www.xda-developers.com
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Caporegime
I wish there was more thought in Windows 11 for touch devices and controllers, Windows 11 is a backwards step, the menus are also more "complex" and cluttered again a backwards step from Windows 10. Under the hood I'm sure Windows 11 is speedier but it's like having a BMW M5 and going on really long drives and taking the engine out and putting it into Ford Ka.
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From the leaks that have come out (obligatory pinch of salt) it doesn't seem to be going in that direction.
To be fair about the only thing i picked up so far was the floating taskbar and some icons, the time, and search bar at the top a bit like macOS.
Windows 11 2024 Update: What's new and why it's not Windows 12
The Windows 11 2024 Update is coming soon
Hope that isn't the default and/or fixed UI, sure if people want that as an option, but the amount of screen estate it would lose, or functionality if you have to minimise all windows to see the clock, etc. would be daft, but given the thought processes or rather lack of which have gone into 11 I wouldn't be surprised.
Soldato
Windows 11 23H2 update is now available to download from Windows Update, Media Creation Tool and ISO.
www.neowin.net
I checked for updates but no update then I read last comment on neowin post, I had "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" option and then check for available updates toggle turned on, I turned it off and checked for updates and found Windows 11 23H2.
23H2 update took only a few secs to download and took a min to installed so it is not a feature update but enablement package.
Microsoft releases Windows 11 version 23H2
Microsoft has finally released Windows 11 version 23H2. Official images are now available for download, allowing you to clean-install the latest operating system from the software giant.
www.neowin.net
I checked for updates but no update then I read last comment on neowin post, I had "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" option and then check for available updates toggle turned on, I turned it off and checked for updates and found Windows 11 23H2.
23H2 update took only a few secs to download and took a min to installed so it is not a feature update but enablement package.
Was reading the comments on the TPU article titled "Microsoft Windows 11 23H2 Major Update Begins Rolling Out, Bets Big on Generative AI" and one comment said this...
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Ah the comments there, a few people with their heads in the sand but more and more people seeing what I've been complaining about all these years, sadly still a long way from it being enough to force MS to shake up their approach to developing the OS.
Don
Sadly the alternatives are the walled garden, wallet emptying ecosystem of Apple, or the constant googling and frustration of whatever Linux distro you choose.
What is massively annoying me, same with my Windows 10 laptops, if I have the system idle in the background for likes 15+ minutes the fans will ramp up with whatever maintenance or telemetry task or whatever that kicks in... ******* stupid - Windows 7 always just sits nice and idle in the background and maintenance tasks when essential rarely use much system resources.
I'd be off like a shot if I had the option, but so much I've done over the years has been Windows centric it is an impossible task to adopt anything else for the full range of tasks. It annoys me when companies forget the people who got them to where they are today.
Sadly the alternatives are the walled garden, wallet emptying ecosystem of Apple, or the constant googling and frustration of whatever Linux distro you choose.
I'd be off like a shot if I had the option, but so much I've done over the years has been Windows centric it is an impossible task to adopt anything else for the full range of tasks. It annoys me when companies forget the people who got them to where they are today.