Midweek Football *SPOILERS* 3/4 March

Tummy said:
What makes you say this ?
Because he dives ?

I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Everyone cheats. Ronaldo dives no more then some other players, The media seem to be out to get foreign players who dive "they're spoiling our game".

We ( Sheffield Wednesday ) played Barnsley the other week, Barnsley dived :(
Steven Gerrard frequently dives, Taylor at Newcastle dived for a penalty against Sunderland.

Don't single Ronaldo out, he's no worse or better then the rest. It's just another "fashion" that football is going through, as with holding people at corners.

Don't be as stupid as to think that Ronaldo is the only diver in the English game, it happens at every club, at every level and by every player, regardless of where they come from.
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it's not necessarily the diving but the play acting that annoys me, nobody and i mean nobody overreacts like Ronaldo does and if you can't see that then you shouldn't have a drivers license because you obviously have sight problems.

as the guy above correctly states he's also got away with multiple kicking outs which anybody else would get a straight red card ...but not Ronaldo oh no he's got protection it seems.

they've got the strongest squad by far, a great manager and the biggest cheater in the league ....is it any wonder they're shoe-ins for the league again.
 
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marscay said:
it's not necessarily the diving but the play acting that annoys me, nobody and i mean nobody overreacts like Ronaldo does and if you can't see that then you shouldn't have a drivers license because you obviously have sight problems.

as the guy above correctly states he's also got away with multiple kicking outs which anybody else would get a straight red card ...but not Ronaldo oh no he's got protection because SAF controls the officials.

they've got the strongest squad by far, a great manager and the biggest cheater in the league ....is it any reason they're shoe-ins for the league again.
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I present to you Eboue ! who can roll for the world after a tackle, every player play acts when they get tackled. It's not just Ronaldo, how many times do you see a player go down, look half dead and then get up again and carry on ?

It's not just Ronaldo.
Nothing to do with Sir Alex, he doesn't role about on the floor, this is about players.

Ever thought that the Ref hasn't seen something ? Because you're right players that kick out get sent off, but only if the Ref see's it.
The Ref isn't going to say "well i'm sending you off.. ermm well because he said you kicked him"
 
Oh poo, Toure's out. Wenger's says not sure for how long.

Damn, just as he was running into form. I mean, seriously, how many injuries can one squad suffer. It's ridiculous.

^And people are only having a go at certain players, because of the extent and frequency of their simulations. Yes every player does it, some much, much more than others.
 
Greenlizard0 said:
Oh poo, Toure's out. Wenger's says not sure for how long.

Damn, just as he was running into form. I mean, seriously, how many injuries can one squad suffer. It's ridiculous.

^And people are only having a go at certain players, because of the extent and frequency of their simulations. Yes every player does it, some much, much more than others.
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Whats up with him ?
He's a good player !

Everton have another front man out for the season after that horrible tackle by Mr Nolan.
 
Who knows, I'm hoping Villa's collapse will continue and we'll start banging them in. Their upcoming fixtures in the league are Spurs (H) (hopefully a second victory on the trot lol), Liverpool (A) (hopefully over their recent slump), Man United (A) (Man UTD win easily), Everton (H) (who knows).

While Toure's injured, we do have the FA cup on the weekend. Hopefully by next week Djourou might be back otherwise we're screwed if Song starts in defence. :(
 
Djourou's out aswell or did you mean Gallas? I was just going to ask when Gallas is back, can't seem to remember what Gallas's injury was but short term.

Looks like we'll be starting Djourou, Song with Denilson and Diaby infront of them, and Villa fans think losing one game means they'll give up 4th :p

5th spot is going to look iffy with that quartet of players in our starting lineup. I'm not sure, I think i've seen Sagna slip in at centre back during a game a couple times but not for long, no idea if he'd be any good or not. Though realistically I can't see him being worse than Song in any way, Sagna with Djourou with Eboue at RB, at least we'd have some pace, Song and Djourou are painfully slow.
 
Oh I thought the Swiss lad was back fairly soon? Bum.

I'm just annoyed at this season as a whole. I suppose finally at least Wenger's admitting we're shafted if we don't make next years Champion's League.
 
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Awesome, Eduardo and Theo (especially Theo) likely to be in the squad for Burnley, sounds like Theo will play a part :D! Also Gallas and Toure both likely to be fit for Roma. Not great, but not too bad at all!
 
The presentation of his comments is always alarmist - but he has got a point

The price of falling out of the EPL is too high, which is a contributing factor to managers not being given time in the job after losing a few games

I think everyone can agree that a top level manager needs more than three - four months at any team , no matter who you are/what team, to start providing consistant success, I ynderstand directors point, that they currently cant afford to "give" away a 1/3 of the seasons results without doing something to change - but sacking the guy at the top doesnt HAVE to be the answer

I know there are parachute payments for those teams going down for a few years after - but even those are small fry compared to what you get staying up.

Im also in agreement for some kind of home grown rule as long as it covers the whole of the British Isles for us (no reason why it shouldnt) rather than just England, and also that it covers those on the bench also not just starters.

As of this season you are allowed.....7 on the bench? So a rule saying for example 7 homegrown players in the match day squad wouldnt be such a bad idea (even maybe 4 to start with , with the aim to get it to 7 in a few years time)

It would have to be a decent number (if it was like 3 you could just use half your bench without ever really thinking they will be needed, so will end up pointless). Having a decent number forces each team to field one or two at least in the starting 11, and even Liverpool and Arsenal could manage that by next season without too much difficulty

The entertainment factor cant be forgotten, so you will always need your Torres, Ronaldo, RVP etc but we do need home grown players to be given even a slightly better chance of getting a place in EPL squads otherwise the national team will always have its "we have to play X because there literally isnt any other choice" moments
 
FrankJH said:
The entertainment factor cant be forgotten, so you will always need your Torres, Ronaldo, RVP etc but we do need home grown players to be given even a slightly better chance of getting a place in EPL squads otherwise the national team will always have its "we have to play X because there literally isnt any other choice" moments
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nonsense tbh, it will mean more worse players play in our league, nothing more and nothing less. There are hundreds of english players across the leagues, the ones good enough play in the top teams, the crap ones don't. Frankly I pick league quality anyday over England doing well, realistically Arsenal, Man U and the rest play 50 games a year and I can watch and be entertained by them, on a non cup year England play, what 10 games, of which almost all are crap, some pointless friendlies, on a cup year, 15 games, 20 games if you're lucky, again far to many are against hopeless teams that are so dull and boring.

But thats ignoring the fact that a homegrown rule will in no way improve our team, at all. If the premier league has say, what, 400 "first team" players roughly saying all squads have 20 people who quite often start if not all the time, plenty of those are already english, theres more than enough. The england squad isn't often the best it can be but theres far more than 20 first team players who are better than many of those in other top international teams, the fact they hire great managers who can win things, and we hire dross managers who make the same mistakes has NOTHING to do with how many english people play in the premier league.

I for one don't want to see a far less entertaining, much worse quality premierleague because teams are forced to spend money in wages and transfers on players who don't deserve to play, just so england can be just as crap as they always are and so we win a few more games against Andorra and Kazakstan.
 
BBC said:
Blatter also believes that the England's top flight has an unhealthy imbalance of power, with only a handful of clubs contesting the title.
"In a competition where two-thirds or three-quarters of the participants in the league play not to be first, but not to be relegated, there is something wrong," he added.

Since the formation of the Premier League in 1992 there have only been four different winners, compared to six different champions over the previous 16 seasons.
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Is it any different in Italy? Why isn't Blatter complaining about Scottish football?
 
Blatter and Platini, their agenda's are simply wanting to have the french, spanish and italian leagues become a bit more powerful by the EPL having less of the best players.

Its not done yet obviously, but Arsenal are having a poo year in general yet overall Roma didn't even really provide a threat. For several years now the EPL teams have dominated the CL.

The other thing is, without relatively cheap "unknowns" from Europe then Man U, City and Chelsea(if Abramovich keeps spending) will simply dominate. if the home grown rules come into effect in a big way then the big teams will simply buy all the best players, and the other 17 teams in the EPL will just have Championship quality players in their team. It will destroy the EPL in terms of quality and entertainment, we'll end up with maybe 10 WBA's, 2 Stokes, maybe 4 Bolton type teams and 3 Man U's. It will be a joke, almost every game all year will include one team playing crap overly defensive 10 men behind the ball spoiling football. I mean in general English talent is ridiculously expensive already, think how much worse it will get when its more people are after what little talent there is, and the option of buying foreign all but dries up.

Why anyone is in favour of that I have no idea.
 
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