Military coup in Turkey?

robfosters · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:24

Erdogans press officer

Participant · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:25

Raikiri said:
He said they are Turkish, not in Turkey. Makes sense that someone from there would have contacts and details about what's going on.

I think he knew perfectly well what the assumption would be. He only revealed when he got called out on his bs.

muon · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:26

Participant said:
I think he knew perfectly well what the assumption would be. He only revealed when he got called out on his bs.

I don't think someone trying to mislead would admit it. Would be very easy to carry on lying.

You really think contacting people in Turkey isn't easy?

robfosters · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:26

Malevolence said:
One worrying thing is what will IS be doing to take advantage of this?

I think they would rather the coup failed tbh.

Tosno · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:26

lafemmefatale said:

That cup isn't going to bring itself over, chop chop

Scottland · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:27

pumaz said:
It's not looking good for my holiday to Oludeniz in September

I've got a layover in Istanbul en route to Sri Lanka for my honeymoon in 4 weeks. Time to see if I can change flights me thinks...

I hope this doesn't turn into a blood bath though.

Mr Jack · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:28

Participant said:
Seriously though Mr Jack, trying to imply that you're in touch with someone in Turkey who later turns out to be living in Nottingham, is weak.

Eh, I should have made that clearer. My bad.

But, come on, we're just trying to get a picture of what's going on here and she has better knowledge of, and contacts in, Turkey than I do.

Soundood · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:28

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CaptainRAVE · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:28

robfosters said:
Erdogans press officer

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:D such a legend.

dowie · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:28

Mynight said:
Wow cant be good.

could be good actually...

the current President has been too Islamic, too authoritarian... made plenty of enemys - if they're genuinely 'restoring democratic order' and getting rid of the current numpty then, though a bit dodgy it could be a good thing... so long as democracy is restored swiftly and new elections held

SPG · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:28

Fair play to them, there leader was a crooked nut.

Rroff · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:29

Longbow said:
That's fake it seems.

Not entirely fake assuming the video is from todays events - second video gunship opening up with minigun bursts.

https://twitter.com/cumhuriyetgzt/status/754041391102255105

muon · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:30

dowie said:
could be good actually...

the current President has been too Islamic, too authoritarian... made plenty of enemys - if they're genuinely 'restoring democratic order' and getting rid of the current numpty then, though a bit dodgy it could be a good thing... so long as democracy is restored swiftly and new elections held

A coup overthrowing an elected government never restores democratic order. It is an oxymoron.

All people circumventing democracy claim to be doing it on some kind of populism. In reality it is all about getting it your own way, getting power for yourself.

dowie · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:30

muon said:
No. The world would view it as choosing democracy when it suits us.

I think the US will come out with harsh words.

perhaps... they'll generally have to condemn this sort of stuff - however if it is swiftly dealt with and the new regime clearly lays a path to new elections etc.. then much much less of an issue

dowie · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:31

muon said:
A coup never restores democratic order. It is an oxymoron.

no it isn't, a coup against a dictator for example...

muon · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:31

dowie said:
no it isn't, a coup against a dictator for example...

Too slow.

Werewolf · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:31

kitch9 said:
Islam and it's inherent problems with the knuckle dragging side of its followers is beyond tedious to those over here. Especially when it's only the non knuckle dragging Islam followers can do something about but can't be bothered to.

Who do you think are actually doing much of (most of) the fighting against the likes of ISIS?
Who do you think are the biggest victims of ISIS? (in numbers)

It's other Muslims.

The problem is pretty much the same as every terrorist and criminal group in history, it's damned hard to tell someone who is a terrorist/criminal apart from the hundreds of civilians they're hiding amongst most of the time when they're not in control.

Unless you've got mind readers or cameras watching everyone all the time you don't know what is going on in someones house (in the same way you may not realise that your neighbour is really a serial killer, or a spy for Russia)

robfosters · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:32

Lol, if you have to phone your presidential address in via skype from a hotel room, you are not in control!

Rroff · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:32

muon said:
A coup overthrowing an elected government never restores democratic order. It is an oxymoron.

All people circumventing democracy claim to be doing it on some kind of populism. In reality it is all about getting it your own way, getting power for yourself.

Military coups in Egypt have been used to restore some sort of democracy in the past.

SPG · 15 Jul 2016 at 22:32

Something had to be done. Cant go around beating people up for listening to Radiohead, Adele yes Radiohead NO NO NO.